Knockback vs Stun Break PVP

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Posted by: Thiefz.3695

Thiefz.3695

Hey all,

Quick question to the engi community. I have noticed that while I have access to good knockbacks with bomb F1 and rifle 4, my only stun break in my build is elixir s. I was thinking of using EG instead of bombs for the extra regen and stun break. So the question is:

Would you give up the fire fields and knockback for stun break, healing on EG? I could switch to p/s for the defense, knockback but I’ve been enjoying the burst with rifle. I’m not opposed to going back to p/s if people thought it was better than removing bombs.

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Posted by: Chaith.8256

Chaith.8256

Running Elixir S, and E-Gun seems weird to me, I feel your damage would suffer too much. Running double stunbreak doesn’t sound trash, because at least it’s another kit, but it sounds not as strong.

I assume the third utility you’re not mentioning is Grenade Kit?

If you want have better stunbreaks for 1v1, I suggest you use Elixir Gun or Slick Shoes over Elixir S. If you are more worried about dying to 3+ players training you, Elixir S is the best that it will get.

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Posted by: Chicago Jack.5647

Chicago Jack.5647

Chaith, this is a question to you and a bit offtopic.

In your opinion, what is the +’s and -’s of bringing pistol shield nade bomb over pistol pistol nade toolkit?

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Posted by: Chaith.8256

Chaith.8256

Chaith, this is a question to you and a bit offtopic.

In your opinion, what is the +’s and -’s of bringing pistol shield nade bomb over pistol pistol nade toolkit?

P/P toolkit builds are much better at initiating, due to skills like magnet, escaping multiple enemies while blocking all attacks, fighting moving enemies due to the mobile attacks of Pistol Offhand, and Tool Kit, getting confusion and burning on the run, instead of depending on enemies to get sit around for the bomb kit’s burning and confusion.

P/S bomb builds are much better at wrecking point-committed things, and manipulate downed bodies slightly better. Having a shield has obvious benefits, including projectile reflecting and improved interrupting power. Having combo fields and 2 more blast finishers, albeit on long cooldowns, adds increased utility such as might or another clutch stealth for allies.

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Posted by: Thiefz.3695

Thiefz.3695

I didn’t post my build because it’s really not that great. I basically run an HGH build, berserkers, with strength runes. I run Elixir S, Elixir B, Elixir H, and bombs. Then for elite, I run Elixir X. With 20% reduction for Elixirs, I get my elite back in a little over 60 seconds which is better than the supply crate cool down. The point of my build is burst. I run air/fire since I have high crit uptime.

The nice thing about HGH is that it’s simple, you just need to know how to rotate your elixirs and then how to cap the node. Elixir X with Brute allows for all the stability you need however you don’t get any condi clear. however with the burst aspect, you can stealth in and get a squishy thief or elemental down very quickly. The downside is the lack of stun breaks but that might just be a skill issue. I was trying to tweak things a bit but going back to p/s might help with that.

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Posted by: Chaith.8256

Chaith.8256

I didn’t post my build because it’s really not that great. I basically run an HGH build, berserkers, with strength runes. I run Elixir S, Elixir B, Elixir H, and bombs. Then for elite, I run Elixir X. With 20% reduction for Elixirs, I get my elite back in a little over 60 seconds which is better than the supply crate cool down. The point of my build is burst. I run air/fire since I have high crit uptime.

The nice thing about HGH is that it’s simple, you just need to know how to rotate your elixirs and then how to cap the node. Elixir X with Brute allows for all the stability you need however you don’t get any condi clear. however with the burst aspect, you can stealth in and get a squishy thief or elemental down very quickly. The downside is the lack of stun breaks but that might just be a skill issue. I was trying to tweak things a bit but going back to p/s might help with that.

Nice, I have a build that’s very similar to yours that I use for Hotjoins occasionally. No judging. It’s REALLY fun.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlcTp6q1XxkLkfNSehMykTBZgFiu1taA-TJBFwAOeAAl2foaZAAXAAA

Here’s what you do: Get might fully stacked up. Roam to a side point: toss Elixir S for stealth. Toss Elixir B for stability WHILE you’re in stealth. Magnet pull somebody, Prybar them (for 7k, 2k Air Sigil) Overcharge shot them (for 3.5k). You had stability so you don’t get knocked back. Throw the Wrench (6k), Blunderbus (5k). Then if it’s not dead, use Jump Shot or try to roll Rampage.

RIP anything that you hit with this combo that doesn’t have a stunbreak.

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Posted by: Thiefz.3695

Thiefz.3695

I see what you did, with the decrease in recharge that allows you to get your tool belt skills back faster which helps you keep might up along with the stab on B and the stealth on S. Do you feel that it’s worth the 200 power and IP? There is a slight compensation with the increase to ferocity.

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Posted by: Chaith.8256

Chaith.8256

It’s berserker, IP is whatever!

You have 2700 power or something when your stacks get going, it’s best not to worry about the 200 power at that point.

But yeah you could make the build 4/4/0/6/0 if you prefer. It’s whatever you like for a hotjoin build such as this

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Posted by: Thiefz.3695

Thiefz.3695

Thanks Caith!
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Posted by: Thiefz.3695

Thiefz.3695

Quick question. If I went and used 4/4/0/6/0 and used acid coated elixirs, could I strip the stability off of lich form for a necro?

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Posted by: Chaith.8256

Chaith.8256

Quick question. If I went and used 4/4/0/6/0 and used acid coated elixirs, could I strip the stability off of lich form for a necro?

Yeah you can do that if no other/few boons are present. Beware though… Elixir S toss will basically become useless as it will cast reveal on you instead of stealth the majority of the time.

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Posted by: johnsonade.9547

johnsonade.9547

Quick question. If I went and used 4/4/0/6/0 and used acid coated elixirs, could I strip the stability off of lich form for a necro?

Yeah you can do that if no other/few boons are present. Beware though… Elixir S toss will basically become useless as it will cast reveal on you instead of stealth the majority of the time.

Hey I think they fixed this. I’ve been able to use acidic elixir to strip and reset fights in pvp and pve, it’s just if that I attack right out of it or have a bomb on the ground, I’ll get revealed. I’ll have to test it further but I think they got around to fixing this bug.