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Posted by: Raijinn.9065

Raijinn.9065

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQFAElspyXnuSidEBUh8S0jHjyssPPYr0CCB;TkAA1Cqo8yokQJbXOvkdNqA

Idk why it won’t link, maybe this site blocks that site for whatever reason. But here it is anyways.

Rifle
Elixir h
Elixir s
Elixir b
Grenade kit
Supply crate

30 V,VIII, XI
10 VI
0
30 II, X, IX
0

Superior sigil of earth
Superior rune of rage x 2
Superior rune of the water x 2
Superior rune of the monk x 2
Soldiers amulet
Rampages jewel

I was very proud of this build, never had so much success in 2v1 and 3v1 and group battles. Petty tanky can take hit from anything, but yet could still drop a target if I need to. Main form of damage was my rifle rotation and grenades. I used elixir B for the buffs and the fury and might and 2 low CD condition heals for a total of 7. My runes basically were to synergize with elixir b to extend the durations a nice amount (mainly on fury). Could have dropped backpack regenerator and even get thet 20% boon duration trait. So they basically nerfed both my boon duration runes AND grenades AND elixir b. build isn’t broken but it was kind of centered around the use of elixir b. I will obviously adjust and make something even better but it really makes me mad because I don’t have many other options to look for. They didn’t really fix anything but took from us so much.

I actually am waiting till I get off work so I can check grenade damage. Because with the increased rate they are thrown the damage might actually equal out, plus you can get the 10% explosion dmg increase trait to get most of the dmg back. So I will wait to judge on that one, but the elixir b and runes really hurt. So technically I could get my complete build back but basically lose all the boons I was toting.

But my issue is that it took me quite a while to find a setup that was so viable for me. What do I have to look to next? They didn’t buff any of our lacking areas, nor did they fix any major bugs. Grenades, through my experience, and play style, is the only kit that allows me to constantly maintain competitive viability. I’m not saying I will ditch them, but it seems like everything the engineer gets is nerfed into oblivion.

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Posted by: Ploppy.2917

Ploppy.2917

They buffed turrets. Have fun.

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Posted by: Raijinn.9065

Raijinn.9065

Those will never be viable in my eyes, and I’m not a fan of artificial intelligence in pvp. And looking at the update changes…..there’s nothing in there that makes them anymore worth it in my eyes

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Posted by: Recursivision.2367

Recursivision.2367

You think you got nerfed, try relying on smoke bomb and toss elixir r!

To be fair though, smoke bomb was probably the strongest defensive skill in the game.

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Posted by: Raijinn.9065

Raijinn.9065

Agreed! I was such a big fan of smoke bomb + rocket boots. I definitely saw that elixir r nerf coming so I tried my best to stay away from it….too many people complaining about it….but yet a warrior can do it every time they go down (trained or not doesn’t matter).

They did so much damage to us in this update. Wow, bomb builds, grenade builds, alchemist builds (elixirs), insert relative nerfed build here, and here, and here, while still leaving everything else basically broken

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Posted by: tigirius.9014

tigirius.9014

Agreed! I was such a big fan of smoke bomb + rocket boots. I definitely saw that elixir r nerf coming so I tried my best to stay away from it….too many people complaining about it….but yet a warrior can do it every time they go down (trained or not doesn’t matter).

They did so much damage to us in this update. Wow, bomb builds, grenade builds, alchemist builds (elixirs), insert relative nerfed build here, and here, and here, while still leaving everything else basically broken

Yep it’s like no one over there even plays this class. AT ALL. wake up devs we’re tired of being second class! and I’m not a pvper before people ask, I’m pve’er and there are still HUGE problems more then a month later, but they made sure those boxes were in the store didn’t they huh… smh

Balance Team: Please Fix Mine Toolbelt Positioning!

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Posted by: lepri.6504

lepri.6504

Why does anet still insist on nerfing engineers. What have we done to them.

Blacktide>>Yafes>>Asura Engineer

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Posted by: Fenrirrhowl.2471

Fenrirrhowl.2471

Fortunately my rifle zerker build didnt get touched, but kitten I know the feeling this patch just kicked us right in the dick for build options (which we are severely lacking) I’m finding it harder and harder to convince myself to stay when people like Raijinn get the shaft and completely blindsided by this kind of crap.

I suppose I’m going to tough it out and see the direction they chose but I’m half way out the door if they keep pulling this kind of negligence to the real issues of the game. don’t even get me started on all the farming we gotta do to get all of our sets back to par as well as Fine transmutation stones to make them look like they use too. ugh!

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Posted by: ShadowPuppet.3746

ShadowPuppet.3746

I play both engie and mesmer, and both got tanked pretty hard today. What they did to mesmer is unforgivable though, not being able to summon illusions when blinded or a player blocks or dodges or breaks los (we all know how many los issues this game has). I can see the attacks of the illusions not hitting when a player is in one of those states, but for it to prevent us from even summoning our only class mechanic…it’s pretty much killed the class all the way around, hell you can’t even summon your phantasm in a down state if the person uses invuln or blind on you first. Sorry I realize this a engineer forum got kinda sidetracked. Back on topic sorta I suppose what I wanted to say was I feel your pain, Anet made some very very poor choices in their implementation with this patch and it’s not leaving a warm fuzzy feeling any more.
edit: for anyone that is thinking it is all about a damage nerf for mesmer it is not just simply that, mesmers rely on their clones for defense as well ie distortion or distraction and some of our traits even reduce how much dmg we take based on the amount of illusions active.

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Posted by: Haralin.1473

Haralin.1473

Mesmer are strong enough please go to the mesmer forum mesmer is still one of the best solo classes in PvP. everyone has to deal with los and blind now you are in the our world.

Haralin Engineer
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Posted by: ShadowPuppet.3746

ShadowPuppet.3746

Mesmer are strong enough please go to the mesmer forum mesmer is still one of the best solo classes in PvP. everyone has to deal with los and blind now you are in the our world.

Except what you fail to realize, is it prevents a mesmer from using their class mechanic, that is basically like saying if I blind you, dodge you or are invuln or break los you can’t switch kits. It is not about a damage nerf it is about breaking the fundamental mechanic of the class all together. It has nothing to do with the skills themselves hitting I stated they should not hit if a player is one of those states, but it literally leaves the mesmer with zero options since our offense and defense both come from being able to generate illusions.

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Posted by: lepri.6504

lepri.6504

Engineers are punished for using their class mechanic kits with -450 stats and no sigils, and we suffer from this since the start. I hate nerfs for anyone but now you can understand our problems better.

Blacktide>>Yafes>>Asura Engineer

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Posted by: ShadowPuppet.3746

ShadowPuppet.3746

Engineers are punished for using their class mechanic kits with -450 stats and no sigils, and we suffer from this since the start. I hate nerfs for anyone but now you can understand our problems better.

Honestly my intention was not to come here to complain about the mesmer mechanic change. I also play a engie, both my mesmer and engie are lvl 80…Yes I do play my mesmer more, the actual point of my post was that I felt the op’s pain in regards to this patch and sort of got sidetracked (that happens to me a lot lol). I guess the point of this response is I know all too well how the kits affect effectiveness and the lack of build diversity that comes with poor scaling, the mesmer change however is a different issue still, it actually prevents you from using your class mechanic. Oops here I go again on another tangent, I will end this now just by saying I am not trying to stir up any drama about it as I realize that many classes still have huge issues for anet to work through.

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Posted by: JabLock.8490

JabLock.8490

How about an….

Assault rifle kit!?