It has come to my attention that a power engineers mid to long range options are limited. Rifle is close range with a mid range auto, grenades have a good distance but 4/5 of the skills are made for adding conditions. Bomb kit and wrench are close range. I feel that for power engineers we are mostly stuck to close range combat. Devs, I hope that when a new kit comes out it can fill this void in the engineers utility, thanks
I find myself sometimes trying to run power, and while it can be successful, I feel that it just pales in comparison to condition builds. Especially where survive-ability is concerned. I think one of the main reasons for this is that to do really good damage power builds have to utilize more stats than condition damage, which leaves condition damage to have better toughness and overall survive-ability.
Needless to say I really want to play power, but I just seem to do so much better when running conditions.
Its true that condition builds beat power builds but that’s beside the point. Our kits do not fully take advantage of power stats, especially in mid/long ranges.
grenades have a good distance but 4/5 of the skills are made for adding conditions.
Not sure that’s 100% true. Shrapnel Grenade and Freeze Grenade both deal a lot of direct damage. And don’t forget about Grenade Barrage.
Also if looking for “mid-range,” I’d say Flame Blast on the Flamethrower scales just fine with Power. 600 range; first hit scales by 75%, second hit by 175%.
Flame Blast does scale great with power, as does the Acid Bomb from the Elixir Gun. And while Acid Bomb is a close range attack, it also opens up distance between you and your target.
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Needless to say I really want to play power, but I just seem to do so much better when running conditions.
I’ve done a lot of in game comparative testing between builds, looking to find our highest sustained DPS PvE wise. In my test scenario’s Power almost always beats out Condition builds for DPS. Zerker and Rampagers are on about the same level, but with the crappy condition mechanics your dps can be lost by overwritten bleeds or pushed back burning.. I’ve found Power DPS to be much more reliable and in almost all cases higher then Condi. Also, I believe Power scales better with Vulnerability and Might, could be wrong here though.
Melee builds are almost always higher damage then ranged across all classes, risk vs reward. At least from what I’ve tested.
Where Engi’s are concerned Power Grenades with the new Modified Ammo is doing really well as a ranged option. Rifle/SD is pretty solid if you’re in a group that supplies Vulnerability and Conditions, but Rifle should be considered a melee or short range weapon. FT2, EG4 and Bomb Kit scale quite well with Power but I would not consider these ranged.
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Its true that condition builds beat power builds but that’s beside the point. Our kits do not fully take advantage of power stats, especially in mid/long ranges.
well thanks for the giggle. you must know some really bad rifle engineers.
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I find myself sometimes trying to run power, and while it can be successful, I feel that it just pales in comparison to condition builds. Especially where survive-ability is concerned. I think one of the main reasons for this is that to do really good damage power builds have to utilize more stats than condition damage, which leaves condition damage to have better toughness and overall survive-ability.
Needless to say I really want to play power, but I just seem to do so much better when running conditions.
You need to experiment some more. Power/Bomb builds, if done right, can be one of the top “survivability” specs in the game. You can also get the highest AE and Single target DPS from power builds.
I think you are just better at condi builds, probably because you are more familiar with them. The Engineer in GW2 is extremely flexible and your style of play can change drastically from a few spec changes. It’s why I love my Engineer, I don’t need a warrior/thief/elementalist/ranger/guardian all I need to do is swap out my gear and retrain my traits…
Its true that condition builds beat power builds but that’s beside the point. Our kits do not fully take advantage of power stats, especially in mid/long ranges.
well thanks for the giggle. you must know some really bad rifle engineers.
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine!
Unless they make some major changes to pistol, it will never compare to Engineer rifle. I do not know of any weapon in the game (with their current abilities) that I would prefer over my Engineer Rifle.
Its true that condition builds beat power builds but that’s beside the point. Our kits do not fully take advantage of power stats, especially in mid/long ranges.
well thanks for the giggle. you must know some really bad rifle engineers.
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine!
Unless they make some major changes to pistol, it will never compare to Engineer rifle. I do not know of any weapon in the game (with their current abilities) that I would prefer over my Engineer Rifle.
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Not that I was trying to compare pistols to rifle but ok.
First off I was not talking pve of course for pve berserkers and power wins out, that is a given.
Secondly I ran a power burst build for 2 months straight utilizing full berserkers genades and toolkit and either EG slick shoes or rocketboots depending on the situtation. Let me tell you power does in no way compare to conditions, your lack of survivability and overall damage output isn’t even close. Landing those grenades/static discharge bursts while trying to stay alive is the biggest issue, and unlike theives and mesmers we do not have the constant entrance into stealth. Like others have said a burst static discharge engineer is a poor man’s thief without stealth, and longer cooldowns on our burst.
Btw I see you talking about power bomb builds, and it baffles me how on earth you land that against any competent opponent, then again I assume you are one of the engineers I see running around spamming bombs while wearing full clerics and healing for 500 while taking 6k from my confusion stacks each time and then coming to the forums to give input on how power is so great. Yeah…. just yeah…
