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Posted by: BrandyBiscuits.2873

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Hi guys, i have created a engineer as my alt because i rely want to wvw with it (group roaming up to 5, large zerging builds).
But ever since i started the skills have been pretty confusing to me, kits, bombs, elixirs…

I have searched a lot on google but i think the best way is to just ask the engineer forums…

What is the current meta builds viable for wvw? I ve seen people speak of conditions and conditions, but they never really go into specifics.. so I’m a bit confused. They say the engi build are very diverse as well and it depends on play style that true?

Any high Mobility pve levelling builds that closely resembles a wvw condi or wvw power build? That way i can’t have more time to practice instead of running build for pve and wvw.

And just off topic : Flameseeker Prophecies worth making? xD

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Posted by: Arantheal.7396

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off topic answer first: nope
go for the predator since pistol-shield / pistol-pistol is the condi-dmg base-weaponry. And condi-dmg is what works not at all in wvw-zerging (wvw-roaming “might” be different) and PvE.

Some basics about engis first: Our Kits are our weapon-sets. We can switch them as often as we wish (1sec swap-cd per kit), which makes the engi the most versatile class in the game. Gadgets are nifty little surprises, we use situational to maintain our survival or surprise our enemy, Elixiers are self-buffs with various effects and turrets are suddenly useful as areal group-buffer (if traited with experimental turrets). We have a medium hp-base, middle armor and many, many options for evading, dodging, blocking huge amounts of dmg, which opens the possibility for being tanky as kitten (even outperforming guardians on that regard). We have access to all but one condition-type in the game and since we can swap our skills that fast, we are the fastest class in applying them. Even if all our weaponsets scream for ranged combat, our actual skills on them are designed for medium / close range, so keeping close to your enemy is what you want to do.

Now to your question regarding builds:

What you want is a rifle and PVT gear.
Smack runes of strength on your gear, and sigil of might + sigil of bloodlust on your rifle.
This is your base. From here on you decide what you want to play.

Group-supporter?
Healing turret, Flamethrower, Experimental turrets, flame-turret, rifle-turret, supply-crate. Gives might (9 to the group, 25 for you) / fury for your group, heals / cleans pretty good, and maintains an acceptable level of dps. Perfect build for fractals or dungoens with rather tanky bosses.

dps?
Healing turret, Bombkit, Hunker down, Grenade Kit, Throw mine.
Puts out the maximum dps that the engi currently has access to, maintains a nice load of might for you, provides boon-stripping and all the condi-control (chill, poison, confusion, blind) that you will ever need.

wvw solo-roaming?
Healing turret, Bombkit, Toolkit, Elixier Gun, Supply crate.
Goto a cliff, place Big old bomb, use the toolkits’ pull and watch your enemy flying off.
Cripple/immobilize them at will, put confusion/ blind on them whenever and use your rifle to cc them to death.

These are just some of our possible builds and I didn’t included most of the traits for a reason: As engi you will come to adjust your build really often so the best you can do is to try out how the different traits work together and get a feel for what is appropriate for which situation. After managing this, you will come up with the most effective builds by yourself even without using google.

Hint: a viable player is a player that plays a build he feels comfortable with. Even the most OP theoretical build won’t help you much if you don’t develop a feel for it. The best builds for you are the builds you come up with yourself. That is how successful players are forged: trial and error. This is why most engis describe options only vaguely to newbies. It’s your journey towards perfection, and it’s plastered with a metric kittenton of possible builds. It’s up to you to pick the ones you like, play them ,adjust them and fit them to what you deem as comfortable.

Yes, condi-engis are viable and somewhat effective when it comes to tpvp, but condition-removal is kinda accessible for every class + these builds hard to play for beginners therefore can ruin your day, regardless how good you time your rota. Go for a power/cc build and decide exactly when and where your enemy meets his spawn again.
And PvE wise… welp, many bosses clean conditions like crazy anyways…

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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off topic answer first: nope
go for the predator since pistol-shield / pistol-pistol is the condi-dmg base-weaponry. And condi-dmg is what works not at all in wvw-zerging (wvw-roaming “might” be different) and PvE.

oh my god the only legendary worth making is the one you want not the one someone tells you is worth it please never say this again

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Posted by: Arantheal.7396

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off topic answer first: nope
go for the predator since pistol-shield / pistol-pistol is the condi-dmg base-weaponry. And condi-dmg is what works not at all in wvw-zerging (wvw-roaming “might” be different) and PvE.

oh my god the only legendary worth making is the one you want not the one someone tells you is worth it please never say this again

You do understand the concept of “question and answer”?
He asked for opinions and got mine.
Your opinion on the other hand is only in so far valid as someone shares your preferences. Expecting everybody to share your specific view-point on a topic – and therefore implying that your view is the sole correct one – is a blatant fallacy in argumentation and openly displays that you’re not open for reasonable arguments, which is why you will likely ignore everything I said and accuse me of oppressing everybody with my specific point of view on the matter at hand.

tl;dr: I lol’d

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Posted by: Ronin.5038

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High mobility would be speedy kits and rocket boots. Maybe an acid bomb to.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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off topic answer first: nope
go for the predator since pistol-shield / pistol-pistol is the condi-dmg base-weaponry. And condi-dmg is what works not at all in wvw-zerging (wvw-roaming “might” be different) and PvE.

oh my god the only legendary worth making is the one you want not the one someone tells you is worth it please never say this again

You do understand the concept of “question and answer”?
He asked for opinions and got mine.
Your opinion on the other hand is only in so far valid as someone shares your preferences. Expecting everybody to share your specific view-point on a topic – and therefore implying that your view is the sole correct one – is a blatant fallacy in argumentation and openly displays that you’re not open for reasonable arguments, which is why you will likely ignore everything I said and accuse me of oppressing everybody with my specific point of view on the matter at hand.

tl;dr: I lol’d

cosmetics are subjective
i dont give a kitten about logical fallacies when the argument is subjective

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Posted by: Arantheal.7396

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Tbh, I don’t like the speedy kits trait.
Since it got reworked and does not allow perma-vigor anymore, i rather would take infusion precision and invigorating speed. That way you still have perma-swiftness in combat, but also maintain a reasonable amount of survivability with these 2…
Wasting a trait in the tool-line for traveling faster seems kinda pointless, especially since we can easily catch up on fleeing enemies with rocketboots and/or EG. speedy kits would be nicely replaced with kit refinement, static discharge or speedy gadgets, depending on your build

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Posted by: Arantheal.7396

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cosmetics are subjective
i dont give a kitten about logical fallacies when the argument is subjective

So, since you accept the matter being subjective – therefore indeterminable true or false – why did you demand me to not ever express my subjective opinion ever again? ^^

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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cosmetics are subjective
i dont give a kitten about logical fallacies when the argument is subjective

So, since you accept the matter being subjective – therefore indeterminable true or false – why did you demand me to not ever express my subjective opinion ever again? ^^

cuz i know in my heart you are wrong!

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