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Posted by: Grayclay.4579

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqanUUB9dhFpCubBEqiF2iC8DLxAgO4H+kPcpuoXD-TFSAABB8AAuS5nX7PohSQAOBAQY+LH9EVr+DpAgYaE-w

Thought process is survivability through vitality and traits, then just stack condition damage.

Any thoughts from y’all?

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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im a fan of traveler runes too. i was just running this and its pretty fun. in your build, drop either inventions or traveler runes. youll get more use out of either alchemy or a runeset not dedicated to move speed, because you dont need both traveler runes and mecha legs.

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im a fan of traveler runes too. i was just running this and its pretty fun. in your build, drop either inventions or traveler runes. youll get more use out of either alchemy or a runeset not dedicated to move speed, because you dont need both traveler runes and mecha legs.

Right, I realize this, but I’m having a hard time deciding on a different runeset. How do you feel about Nightmare?

Also, is splitting stat types ok ever? Like, tossing in a bit of Vit cuz you want more HP?

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Posted by: Soon.5240

Soon.5240

im a fan of traveler runes too. i was just running this and its pretty fun. in your build, drop either inventions or traveler runes. youll get more use out of either alchemy or a runeset not dedicated to move speed, because you dont need both traveler runes and mecha legs.

Right, I realize this, but I’m having a hard time deciding on a different runeset. How do you feel about Nightmare?

Also, is splitting stat types ok ever? Like, tossing in a bit of Vit cuz you want more HP?

I would advise you to get some Travelers and switch to Alchemy in lieu of Inventions. Alchemy’s passive defensive Traits are just too good to pass up.

Otherwise, it’s a great build for WvW and PvE! Can’t say for PvP because I don’t do that.

Here is what I’m currently running:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqancoCFpi9dBuoCEqiF2iSsjmiZE8DLxAgO4H+kH-TFSAABRrhAV1kittenXh7PooegJVCCwJAIgHAApAWUaE-w

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Posted by: PierPiero.9142

PierPiero.9142

This is what i am playing now
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqansTBVXhtbBmXBEqiF2iS0U8EgfYJGA0B/w/8A-T1hAQBhR5HIOBAA4BAAR1fYjSQYs/AA1DAA-w
Ignore the runes, i am using runes of aristocracy but i did not find them in build site.
Elixir U is usefull for damage output and projectil destroyer. It is quite fun. I don’t love MEDKIT but MEDKIT+ elixir B + HGH gives me perma speed and in wvw it is a must for me (or at least 25%). The sense of this build is to camp in EG and to swap to pistol when melee. THe outuput of the damage timing elixir U can be quite fun .

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Posted by: Grayclay.4579

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im a fan of traveler runes too. i was just running this and its pretty fun. in your build, drop either inventions or traveler runes. youll get more use out of either alchemy or a runeset not dedicated to move speed, because you dont need both traveler runes and mecha legs.

Right, I realize this, but I’m having a hard time deciding on a different runeset. How do you feel about Nightmare?

Also, is splitting stat types ok ever? Like, tossing in a bit of Vit cuz you want more HP?

I would advise you to get some Travelers and switch to Alchemy in lieu of Inventions. Alchemy’s passive defensive Traits are just too good to pass up.

Otherwise, it’s a great build for WvW and PvE! Can’t say for PvP because I don’t do that.

Here is what I’m currently running:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqancoCFpi9dBuoCEqiF2iSsjmiZE8DLxAgO4H+kH-TFSAABRrhAV1kittenXh7PooegJVCCwJAIgHAApAWUaE-w

I’ve switched away from Inventions because you’re right, the only useful trait for this build is the Legs trait. I popped in Traveler runes and I’m running Tools and all Gyros for maximum defense spam!

Alchemy has also never really held much interest to me flavor wise. Plus, if you run flamethrower on tools, you get a disgusting 3x stack burn on your toolbelt.

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Posted by: Forestnator.6298

Forestnator.6298

im a fan of traveler runes too. i was just running this and its pretty fun. in your build, drop either inventions or traveler runes. youll get more use out of either alchemy or a runeset not dedicated to move speed, because you dont need both traveler runes and mecha legs.

Right, I realize this, but I’m having a hard time deciding on a different runeset. How do you feel about Nightmare?

Also, is splitting stat types ok ever? Like, tossing in a bit of Vit cuz you want more HP?

I would advise you to get some Travelers and switch to Alchemy in lieu of Inventions. Alchemy’s passive defensive Traits are just too good to pass up.

Otherwise, it’s a great build for WvW and PvE! Can’t say for PvP because I don’t do that.

Here is what I’m currently running:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqancoCFpi9dBuoCEqiF2iSsjmiZE8DLxAgO4H+kH-TFSAABRrhAV1kittenXh7PooegJVCCwJAIgHAApAWUaE-w

Imo there is no reason to run Adaptive Armor over Final Salvo when you run with 4 gyros. Especially with Rapid Regeneration trait too!

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Posted by: Grayclay.4579

Grayclay.4579

im a fan of traveler runes too. i was just running this and its pretty fun. in your build, drop either inventions or traveler runes. youll get more use out of either alchemy or a runeset not dedicated to move speed, because you dont need both traveler runes and mecha legs.

Right, I realize this, but I’m having a hard time deciding on a different runeset. How do you feel about Nightmare?

Also, is splitting stat types ok ever? Like, tossing in a bit of Vit cuz you want more HP?

I would advise you to get some Travelers and switch to Alchemy in lieu of Inventions. Alchemy’s passive defensive Traits are just too good to pass up.

Otherwise, it’s a great build for WvW and PvE! Can’t say for PvP because I don’t do that.

Here is what I’m currently running:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqancoCFpi9dBuoCEqiF2iSsjmiZE8DLxAgO4H+kH-TFSAABRrhAV1kittenXh7PooegJVCCwJAIgHAApAWUaE-w

Imo there is no reason to run Adaptive Armor over Final Salvo when you run with 4 gyros. Especially with Rapid Regeneration trait too!

I realized this playing last night so I switched. To be quite frank, I didn’t really understand how the Scrapper traits worked with all this superspeed stuff, but once I realized that trait gives Stab and SS, I was all over it.

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Posted by: PierPiero.9142

PierPiero.9142

you have no condi remove

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Posted by: Grayclay.4579

Grayclay.4579

you have no condi remove

So do you have a suggestion orrrrr?

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Posted by: Soon.5240

Soon.5240

im a fan of traveler runes too. i was just running this and its pretty fun. in your build, drop either inventions or traveler runes. youll get more use out of either alchemy or a runeset not dedicated to move speed, because you dont need both traveler runes and mecha legs.

Right, I realize this, but I’m having a hard time deciding on a different runeset. How do you feel about Nightmare?

Also, is splitting stat types ok ever? Like, tossing in a bit of Vit cuz you want more HP?

I would advise you to get some Travelers and switch to Alchemy in lieu of Inventions. Alchemy’s passive defensive Traits are just too good to pass up.

Otherwise, it’s a great build for WvW and PvE! Can’t say for PvP because I don’t do that.

Here is what I’m currently running:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqancoCFpi9dBuoCEqiF2iSsjmiZE8DLxAgO4H+kH-TFSAABRrhAV1kittenXh7PooegJVCCwJAIgHAApAWUaE-w

Imo there is no reason to run Adaptive Armor over Final Salvo when you run with 4 gyros. Especially with Rapid Regeneration trait too!

I hear you, and I only recently started experimenting with Adaptive Armor in lieu of Final Salvo in WvW. I also have started using the Healing Turret. That’s part of the reason I switched to AA since there is one less Lightening Field.

One fun thing to try is the Superior Rune of the Krait. It’s 6th skill proc’s 8 seconds of Poison, Bleed and Torment. This is fun to do when you go invisible in group of people.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

you have no condi remove

So do you have a suggestion orrrrr?

tools doesnt really bring anything but swiftness, same as inventions. all the good stuff is power damage or toolkit, neither of which you are taking. swap it for alchemy 221, then you have your condi cleanse (with eg) and a warning proc to get out.

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Soon.5240

The Traveler’s Rune Swiftness is duplicated by the use of Streamlined Kits in the Tools Trait line. I’d consider switching to the Alchemy line, as I noted above. I also don’t like the Streamlined Kits proc’ing outside of combat.

Projection Injection (5 sec CD!) and Transmute (15 sec CD) are very good passive Traits. Plus, Alchemical Tentures offers you three condi removals with your Elixer Gun 4 & 5 skills and the Elixer Gun Tool Belt Skill – plus the Tool Belt is a good stun Break with a slight Regen.

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I’ve realized that if your running travelers, then you don’t need swiftness at all. I’ll try out alchemy and see how it goes, but I don’t doubt it’s the best.

Also, the movement speed stuff is annoying to be pidgeon-holed with.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

engi is actually quite versatile with regards to swiftness. we have B, medkit, tons of blasts + lightning, 2 traits in different lines, on kill sigils, and runes as options. dont worry about losing your investment in your runes and just switch if it bothers you. theyre not so expensive.

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So I’m reconsidering Gyros. They’re pretty glitchy in terms of actually proccing on you and keeping up, and they don’t feel that effective other than their awesome toolbelt skills.

This is my in-game build: https://gw2efficiency.com/c/Jothlon

Also, how do people feel about condition damage distros? dire seems common, Viper is too expensive, is there anything else people routinely use?

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Posted by: Forestnator.6298

Forestnator.6298

So I’m reconsidering Gyros. They’re pretty glitchy in terms of actually proccing on you and keeping up, and they don’t feel that effective other than their awesome toolbelt skills.

This is my in-game build: https://gw2efficiency.com/c/Jothlon

Also, how do people feel about condition damage distros? dire seems common, Viper is too expensive, is there anything else people routinely use?

I am not sure if it is just my mobile device but I can just see the traits, not the skills and gear. Can you post it with gw2 skill?

Regarding gear trailblazers armor / weapon with dire or rabid trinkets should be the most solid condi setup for wvw.

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So I’m reconsidering Gyros. They’re pretty glitchy in terms of actually proccing on you and keeping up, and they don’t feel that effective other than their awesome toolbelt skills.

This is my in-game build: https://gw2efficiency.com/c/Jothlon

Also, how do people feel about condition damage distros? dire seems common, Viper is too expensive, is there anything else people routinely use?

I am not sure if it is just my mobile device but I can just see the traits, not the skills and gear. Can you post it with gw2 skill?

Regarding gear trailblazers armor / weapon with dire or rabid trinkets should be the most solid condi setup for wvw.

This is my exact build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdEQJAqancoCFpitoCubBEqiF2iiO4H+lH8DLxAQsjixZE-T1SAAB5oDow9HeRLQQqQAh5vrU+JkKKBcCA8R9ANUCCwDAgUALKNC-w

And I updated the sharing link: https://gw2efficiency.com/c/Jothlon

The armor is a scattering of WvW exotics, and other random stuff I’ve picked up. It works alright so far, but feels a bit too mix and match.

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Posted by: Jourdelune.7456

Jourdelune.7456

With traveller runes, this is what I did run with best success. (condi scrapper tanky support)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqancoCtoiFpCubBEqiF2iiO4H+lHMELxAQsjixnA-TJhHwAo3fYwJAAwDAAZZAA

With burning runes (i did prefer Flame Legion for the burns on hit), invention line is better than alchemy.

Egun with Alchemy line is usually enough condi cleanses with purge gyro for spvp.

Since sigil of leeching is bug, I play generosity so it helps.

I did tried tool line, it was more burst but was not able to not die a lot… so even, if the burns stack are great, not on stats panel after the game is done.

Note that in firearms, I use Heavy Armor Exploit to cover condition and have heal thick with swiftness. More tanky means being able to help more my teammate when they need peels, heals, cleanses or rez.

Harder to 1v1 vs heavy cleansers classes, but fine versus those who don’t.

Depends on play style, I guess.

But… I still prefer hammer than p/p so, I meta build is much more better in that regard (for spvp at least).

Hope I did give some thoughts on fine tuning your wvw build.

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With traveller runes, this is what I did run with best success. (condi scrapper tanky support)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqancoCtoiFpCubBEqiF2iiO4H+lHMELxAQsjixnA-TJhHwAo3fYwJAAwDAAZZAA

With burning runes (i did prefer Flame Legion for the burns on hit), invention line is better than alchemy.

Egun with Alchemy line is usually enough condi cleanses with purge gyro for spvp.

Since sigil of leeching is bug, I play generosity so it helps.

I did tried tool line, it was more burst but was not able to not die a lot… so even, if the burns stack are great, not on stats panel after the game is done.

Note that in firearms, I use Heavy Armor Exploit to cover condition and have heal thick with swiftness. More tanky means being able to help more my teammate when they need peels, heals, cleanses or rez.

Harder to 1v1 vs heavy cleansers classes, but fine versus those who don’t.

Depends on play style, I guess.

But… I still prefer hammer than p/p so, I meta build is much more better in that regard (for spvp at least).

Hope I did give some thoughts on fine tuning your wvw build.

Super helpful, thank you. I think the key thing here is that in WvW these days, you’re most often going to be out-manned or out-gunned or blobbed halfway through a fight, so survivability and mobility are key to getting around and doing anything – good reasoning to take Alchemy so you die less.