Guild Wars 2

Ok Guys some of my guildies are looking to run good fractals groups. I am taking my Engi. I need to know should I take Strength or Scholar Runes

You can maintain permanent Might easily so you will get that Sixth Strength buff with no issues. Now, Scholar gives 10% more damage WHEN above 90% of your health, if you generally get lower than 90%, go for Strength els I would personaly suggest Scholar.

I believe that Scholar is only better if you stay above 90% of your health around 60% of the times.

Are you having a dedicated might stacker? Like a proper ele or phalanx war that can maintain 25 stacks? If not strength. The dps loss is not that big and the extra might duration is priceless. Especially since fights tend to be longer there.

strength imo

Scholar only for perfect zerk runs, Strength for everything else

Scholar is terrible for fotm compared to strength. Scholar runes are for organized zerk rush dungeons where nothing bad can happen if everyone does what they should do. However I’m not even sure if the 3% additional damage ever will outdamage the longer lasting might buff you gave your team. If you constantly have 25 stacks might, yes, if not, no.

Therefore I strongly recommend the rune of the strength, even if it’s a more expensive rune. A cheaper alternative is the rune of the pack.

Rozbuska.5263:

Scholar only for perfect zerk runs, Strength for everything else

An optimal group does not exist when you have an Engineer around.

@OP, as part of the attractiveness of Engineer is as a Might bot, Strength.

Flissy.4093:

An optimal group does not exist when you have an Engineer around.

Well you probably never play with good engi. I am really sorry for you loss:-P

Flissy.4093:

Rozbuska.5263:

Scholar only for perfect zerk runs, Strength for everything else

An optimal group does not exist when you have an Engineer around.

@OP, as part of the attractiveness of Engineer is as a Might bot, Strength.

Really this is pretty dumb. You must be the group of people that only like 4 war 1 ele.
If this your thoughts on the engi then you sir have no idea.

I went for strength runes. Will benefit in the long run much more.

Well to be fair, Flissy has a point since there are really only a few good engis. However since we speak of “organized and optimal group” I’d allways take an engi over a 2nd [enter any class here].

The “optimal group” depends anyway on dungeon. For example in ascalon you’ll really enjoy having 3 eles for damage. An engi offers everythin they need – vulnerability on boss fights. Eles are gonna deal the most damage with FGS and Ice Bow, maybe even Lightning Hammer. Since they do that, they’ll be on water with a 2/2/2/5/3 build for max damage and therefore are unable to stack vulnerability. The engi alone (with bufffood) can stack 20 vuln on bosses.

My fav party in general is: Guard, Mes, War, Engi, Ele, Ranger. However since I play the engi normally and I doubt a pug engi / ranger is good, I’d honestly take 2nd war and guard for them.

Rozbuska.5263:

Flissy.4093:

An optimal group does not exist when you have an Engineer around.

Well you probably never play with good engi. I am really sorry for you loss:-P

Engineers are good. But they are not optimal.

GW2SCR, a site dedicated to speedrun records and their party comp. In the restricted rule set (i.e. no exploits), not a single party has 1 Engineer.

But Engineers are so optimal.

jknrich.1549:

Flissy.4093:

Rozbuska.5263:

Scholar only for perfect zerk runs, Strength for everything else

An optimal group does not exist when you have an Engineer around.

@OP, as part of the attractiveness of Engineer is as a Might bot, Strength.

Really this is pretty dumb. You must be the group of people that only like 4 war 1 ele.
If this your thoughts on the engi then you sir have no idea.

I went for strength runes. Will benefit in the long run much more.

4 Warriors? You’re crazy, no more than 1 please. If it weren’t for Might/Vuln from an Engineer they’d be fighting Necros for most useless PvE class. Their damage isn’t up to snuff to compete, its okay, but not good enough. Without their offensive support through Might & Vuln, Engineers would be nothing in a dungeon.

Flissy.4093:

Rozbuska.5263:

Flissy.4093:

An optimal group does not exist when you have an Engineer around.

Well you probably never play with good engi. I am really sorry for you loss:-P

Engineers are good. But they are not optimal.

GW2SCR, a site dedicated to speedrun records and their party comp. In the restricted rule set (i.e. no exploits), not a single party has 1 Engineer.

But Engineers are so optimal.

So you go speedrun now. Ok. So you see according to this side they have to suck. So let’s better not even start with it. I’m sorry but I only beleve what I do personally. Aslong as I haven’t seen a video or been myself in a perfect party to do a speedrun and I just couldnt be better, then I beleve you. Right now? No. Noone tries, noone wins.

Flissy.4093:

jknrich.1549:

Flissy.4093:

Rozbuska.5263:

Scholar only for perfect zerk runs, Strength for everything else

An optimal group does not exist when you have an Engineer around.

@OP, as part of the attractiveness of Engineer is as a Might bot, Strength.

Really this is pretty dumb. You must be the group of people that only like 4 war 1 ele.
If this your thoughts on the engi then you sir have no idea.

I went for strength runes. Will benefit in the long run much more.

4 Warriors? You’re crazy, no more than 1 please. If it weren’t for Might/Vuln from an Engineer they’d be fighting Necros for most useless PvE class. Their damage isn’t up to snuff to compete, its okay, but not good enough. Without their offensive support through Might & Vuln, Engineers would be nothing in a dungeon.

Yea … engi damage sucks. I mean… yea.

kitten my screenshot is so popular:-D

Flissy.4093:

Rozbuska.5263:

Flissy.4093:

An optimal group does not exist when you have an Engineer around.

Well you probably never play with good engi. I am really sorry for you loss:-P

Engineers are good. But they are not optimal.

GW2SCR, a site dedicated to speedrun records and their party comp. In the restricted rule set (i.e. no exploits), not a single party has 1 Engineer.

But Engineers are so optimal.

You are right but I am preaty sure engineer is part of a perfect high level fractals speed run party.

Rozbuska.5263:

kitten my screenshot is so popular:-D

Out of curiosity, what build are you running to pull those kinds of numbers with the bomb auto attack? That’s insanity.

igmolicious.5986:

Rozbuska.5263:

kitten my screenshot is so popular:-D

Out of curiosity, what build are you running to pull those kinds of numbers with the bomb auto attack? That’s insanity.

Link is my signature:-) Btw that screen was captured in exo gear without food and bloodlust stacks actualy it hit for 9300+ in ascended and with stacks