[PVP] Mender vs Paladin

[PVP] Mender vs Paladin

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Posted by: PierPiero.9142

PierPiero.9142

For scrapper meta i played a lot with Paladin Amulet. Now after a while, going in solo it seemed to me that the same build ( the meta ) or really similar ( i take sigil of intelligence/force and 2 traits changed i think ) with Mender can be better in many situations. What do you think ? Even 1 vs 2 I die but the fight is quite long and if someone comes to help i usually am quite fast to regain health so i find mender engineer really effective in this moment

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[PVP] Mender vs Paladin

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Posted by: Yannir.4132

Yannir.4132

I’ve seen the Mender variant on ESL level, so yeah, it’s completely viable.

Yannir for males. (guard,thief,war,ele)
Sonya for females. (necro,rev,ranger,mes,engi)
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[PVP] Mender vs Paladin

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Posted by: Huskyboy.1053

Huskyboy.1053

Yeah Paladin is more selfish obviously but gives you much more sustain against power builds. If you’re playing with tankier meh-mobility teammates like DH, ele or Necro then I’d go Mender’s. But since it’s hard to heal thieves, mesmers, and revenants with healing turret and its toolbelt skill, if they’re on your team then you might as well go Paladin and settle for condi removal on elixir gun, which is easier to land. Scrapper engi is good partly because it heals/cleanses the team but can also absorb lots of damage itself. Basically you do better at direct support with Mender’s but like you said, can’t take focus all that well as a result. I prefer Paladin since I play a bit more selfishly (outside of Fumigating my team ofc).

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Posted by: PierPiero.9142

PierPiero.9142

I played paladin for 4 seasons. Now it seems to me that mender is better. I have not real big problem against thieves . i find much easier with mender to fight condi spammer . The only dangerous things that i find now are power mesmer. A strong power mesmer can be really hard especially if it attacks you and you are not ready .

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Posted by: Phineas Poe.3018

Phineas Poe.3018

I played paladin for 4 seasons. Now it seems to me that mender is better. I have not real big problem against thieves . i find much easier with mender to fight condi spammer . The only dangerous things that i find now are power mesmer. A strong power mesmer can be really hard especially if it attacks you and you are not ready .

Well, no one is going to deny that Mender fares better vs. condi than Paladin does; the gains of 1050 healing power vs. 560 toughness is obvious, given that toughness does nothing against condition damage.

I’m still not convinced it’s an overall better choice, however. Mender is more survivable in a condi meta, but is that what we’re in right now? The only classes I really see going condi right now are warrior, necro, and mesmer. Warrior can be easily countered by just running the Mortar Kit and dropping blind and chill fields everywhere. Necromancer can be easily countered with Toss Elixir X. The only class I really struggle vs. condi against is mesmer; and if Paladin does just fine against 8 of 9 professions in the game, and if Menders doesn’t, is it really objectively a better choice?

If I’m queued into a game vs. two mesmers, I’ll absolutely swap to Mender. If I’m also queued into a game with no tempest or druid on my team, I’ll also consider Mender+Water. Other than that, however, I’m still preferential to Paladin amulet. In solo queue situations, it’s generally better to go the more selfish/1v1 route, especially when our support build ends up being incredibly squishy to spike damage unlike druid/tempest historically are.

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