Guild Wars 2

Ehi most know me from the past playing on top teams, I wanna show you how i play engi on this meta.
The build is 6-0-0-6-2 bomb-elixir s-elixir gun-condition rabid
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqelUUpPr1XxdLseNSaBNq0I6QulR+5JcgAA-TJRHwAV2fowJAIZZAAPAAA
I think its the only available strong build because engi is a light class that can easily be one shotted so you need elixir s for the stealth which permits you to disingage also elixir gun gives you one break stun and #4 acid bomb let you disingage more easily; also bombs is the only kit which can let you put condition dmg and stealth you for disingage. Granades are weak cause doesnt give you stealth and the dmg is ridicolous compared to thieves, if you would dps you simply reroll to thief/warrior/mesmer/ele so bombs are the only kit available for us.

So i play this build because is the only one that gives skill for disingage and is very useful for ressing your mates with your stealth, you cannot survive without all these requirements.

You can see how much i own people in teamq on my twitch
http://www.twitch.tv/dsquared89

Solid build and some nice fights on your channel. (you should edit the link you posted. It is not working like this)

I like your use of your stealth abilities.

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

So your reasoning for saying “Granades” are terrible is because you can’t disengage! Very interesting my frand! So basically what you’re telling us is that you build expecting to lose! Anyway nice build!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

this build is okay, far from the best though.

Well Vee Wee, what if the OP ran into a necromancer? I recall that your advice on necromancers is to run Somewhat similar idea.

ArrDee.2573:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

So your reasoning for saying “Granades” are terrible is because you can’t disengage! Very interesting my frand! So basically what you’re telling us is that you build expecting to lose! Anyway nice build!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Expecting to lose what? You play 5v5 you disingage you dont lose, you win lol.
AH im not your friend

Haven´t seen any top tier engi playing without nades since ages, while bombs are seen in like 10% of the specs. If you wanna be useful, go nades!

Check out ToL quarterfinals for example. Every single engi used nades, 1 of them nades + bombs. The weakness of nades you talk about stands in opposite to like 20 pros compared to bombs, you might should mention this as well…

Best engi in history (Teldo) was playing bombs not nades.
Tol what, all tol engis die because they dont have any disingaging skill because they play nades.
Nades is very good offensive dmg mixed with condis but with that u are a dps class, engi dps is weak compared to thief /warriors/eles thats why nades is kitten.

Okay, so:
Your build isn’t anything special, seriously.
Granades were and are pretty good. Bombs and granades just offer different things suiting other roles and playstyles. It might be, that granades are bad for you, cause… you’re bad with them.
You don’t even have arguments to support/prove you’re right or deffend your opinion, else than saying “blah bla nades are kitten”.
And under what list, ranking, anything, are you saying Teldo was best?

I would not loose more time replying people who cannot get the point.

When you can do what i do on my videos that time you will understand.

Dsquaredcri.9421:

I would not loose more time replying people who cannot get the point.

When you can do what i do on my videos that time you will understand.

I can’t, since I can’t go back in times when I rolled engi so my skills were pretty similar to yours.

Seriously man, are we gonna argue like that?

Umm. . . Grenades have a LOT of good utility outside of pure dps (arguably better than the elixir).

For one, they are a great way of applying weakness. A few blast finishers on the poison field can really make a big difference (or force a cleanse).
You also have a chill and a blind (to go along with the bomb blind).

There are very few poison fields in the game.
Chill is also a bit limited too.

I find I can get a lot of stealth out of the bomb kit so as to make the elixir toolkit skill a bit less critical. Elixir S makes more sense to me when I am not running bombs. I suppose, if you want to have LOTS of stealth, having both makes sense. I suppose.

why would a run a build thats best qualitys are on point burning and self decapping?

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/balance/PVP-Engineer-balance

He is top ladderbord EU Engi! His build is the ONLY viable build in PvP! We must listen! We must obey!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Any decent build is viable. I run Static Discharge engineer with my own set of stats and have run pretty much every other engineer build but keep coming back to this one, because it’s fun and works. Saying “everyone needs to run this build in tpvp to be viable” yeah.. great.. so what if I run something different not many people are expecting? These threads about people being No.1 engi EU NA Oceanic, Brazilian, really I think people need to stop caring about how good they are, not taking a stab at you guys, pointing out your expertise is good, but there are more viable builds than just YOUR builds.
There are plenty of options to run, engineer is by far one of the most versatile classes there is and as soon as classes get funnelled into “if you ain’t running meta you ain’t good” it ruins the whole point of making your own build. Some players find other builds suit their playstyle better, and have a lot more fun if you have your own build. There are guidelines, sure, however, almost every thought-out build with a bit of practice can be greatly effective and up to the supposed “tpvp standard.”

You’ll retain a lot more credibility to me if you don’t start pointing to someone as the best Engi in history. How anyone could possibly determine that is ridiculous.

I see. Which exact combo you use to disengage with stealth?
I know Vee Wee isn’t the best pve player(or close) but in pvp it’s not so bad.
Edit: Going into explosives and at least a bit in alchemy is mandatory for engi. In every game mode. You’re not reinveting the wheel.

robertul.3679:

I see. Which exact combo you use to disengage with stealth?
I know Vee Wee isn’t the best pve player(or close) but in pvp it’s not so bad.
Edit: Going into explosives and at least a bit in alchemy is mandatory for engi. In every game mode. You’re not reinveting the wheel.

I did not invented nothing ofc, iam using almost same traits since beta in 2012.
The stealth combo is bomb #4 with your blast (you have 3 blast).

if you want disengages with stealth… …why are you playing engi instead of thief or mesmer? engis dont play nice with stealth. blasting smoke is a bad way to get stealth when you leave a puddle behind that reveals you… like yes engi can stealth, ok, we have tons of blasts and a smoke and an elixir but you dodge you lose it, they step in your puddle you lose it, you tag something with your blast you lose it.

http://www.twitch.tv/dsquared89
Watch me playing there are 3 teamq videos then you’ll understand how to stealth why stealth how to dont lose stealth and why iam useful. You will not see nowadays engis play as good as you’ll see on my twitch, dont you?

Dsquaredcri.9421:

http://www.twitch.tv/dsquared89
Watch me playing there are 3 teamq videos then you’ll understand how to stealth why stealth how to dont lose stealth and why iam useful. You will not see nowadays engis play as good as you’ll see on my twitch, dont you?

Dude, if you were any good and so was your build, you wouldn’t need to convince people about that – they would notice that for their own.
And so far it’s like horde saying “meh build, average skills, you don’t have any arguments” and you’re like “y’all idiots, i’m pro, this build is best – other are kitten, anyone who claims different is wrong”.
Seriously, can’t you see that?

Im not convincing anyone. I shared how i play and honestly i think is better then any nowadays engis since they run different builds. If you cannot realize it it’s because your pvp engi view sucks

Ah just a suggestion, go see tol engis dies 20 times per game, then count how much i die. Open your eyes

Dsquaredcri.9421:

Ah just a suggestion, go see tol engis dies 20 times per game, then count how much i die. Open your eyes

The fact that high amount of Asians and Africans are starving due lack of money doesn’t make me wealthy.
If you compare yourself to horrible player, it pretty much talks by itself.

And I disagree with you, not because my view on engi is bad, but my view on one specific engineer is bad. Again – not only your gameplay isn’t anything good, but build either. Why are you trying to convince us white is black and black is white?

Because this game have only one max 2 high competitive build per character depending on what your job is and what rotations you have to do.

Watching your last games. You have good mobility and good surviveablity. But you make lousy damage on range.

Your build is the normal p/s build with EG instead of nades. Solid for roaming. But as you see in the last game, you can’t kill an ele by yourself (2nd game in your last twitch video). You lose to the mesmer 1vs1 (2nd game). You probably fight against a warrior for 5min if you do not get help (1st game on far) and you are not able to decap the node very easy.

You see the problem in your 2nd game. The guardian survive for >40 sec vs 3 of you?

I guess your build is fine for holding points (you are very hard to kill ) and with your mobility/stealth you are very strong to decap points and surive 1vs2. If this is your job in your team. Your build is fine.

P/P build like ArrDees current build are better in 1on1 and in team fights
ArrDees rifle build or Hibifis build (Rifle+Nades+TK+EG) have better decap possibilities and they are able to kill people faster. Even if they die more often.

But don’t get me wrong. In my point of view your build is very good. The focus of your build is to roam around and “pull” people from the other team to follow you. And this makes your build very strong. Because you can force them to fight you 2vs1 and you still are able to escape without dieing.

The dmg is fine, having more dmg means removing EG which is vital for survive and if you want have more dmg reroll thief. Killing d/d ele is almost impossible if you dont run bombs+nadess. My build is made for roam,kill warriors, 1v1 on far and disingage if you get 2v1, rez people with stealth this is op!. Arrdee build is kitten because if he gets chased by 2 or more he dies quite easily, you are playing 5V5 NOT 1V1!

Lupanic.6502:

But don’t get me wrong. In my point of view your build is very good. The focus of your build is to roam around and “pull” people from the other team to follow you. And this makes your build very strong. Because you can force them to fight you 2vs1 and you still are able to escape without dieing.

You are starting getting the point

Dsquaredcri.9421:

The dmg is fine, having more dmg means removing EG which is vital for survive and if you want have more dmg reroll thief. Killing d/d ele is almost impossible if you dont run bombs+nadess. My build is made for roam,kill warriors, 1v1 on far and disingage if you get 2v1, rez people with stealth this is op!. Arrdee build is kitten because if he gets chased by 2 or more he dies quite easily, you are playing 5V5 NOT 1V1!

Based on this, you’d be better off re-rolling a Thief.

The only thing your build has an advantage in over a Thief is the ability to win most 1v1s. However, you pushing 1v1 far point is silly as it just means your team loses close or loses the mid fight in the age that it takes you to decap/win far.

From my own experience of testing this build, I found it rather useless in midfights as it was difficult to get close enough to drop bombs without taking heavy damage while keeping close was difficult as you self-decap with stealth and lack stability.

I do think you are a good Engineer and I agree with your point that the meta ToL Engineer sucked with a few exceptions but I don’t feel running this build is the way to go.

You have to play it in micro fights such as 2v2 max 3v3, so what you said about bombs is back worth to use.

This statement would break every counter statement

I run this exact build, except I use Tool Kit instead of Elixir S. Yeah, running with 1 stunbreaks bad but I just love magnet shield, prybar and that block. blocks for days.

Anyway, lmao @ the haters that can only think that the meta is viable. I’m not upper crust PVP material, but I do just fine in Solo Q with my build. I sit at a respectable 65% win rate overall. It’s not amazing, but I have fun with it.

Dsquaredcri.9421:

http://www.twitch.tv/dsquared89
Watch me playing there are 3 teamq videos then you’ll understand how to stealth why stealth how to dont lose stealth and why iam useful. You will not see nowadays engis play as good as you’ll see on my twitch, dont you?

You really need to get down your high horse dude. xD

Theres absoultly no intend to flame you or something like that, but i checked out your vids, and honestly, this is solid average.
While im fine with most of your rotations and movement in general, your dodging is some of the most weird ive seen so far. Youre in a 1on1, putting supply crate on your foe or stun him with shield #4. First thing you do after stunning him: dodge. Or in teamfights: no one is even looking into your direction, but you just burn all your dodges just for movement(???), getting shield bashed and eviscerated afterwards. I dont wanna say im dodging each skill i should, but if you claim to be the best, you should definetly improve this a lot(maybe then you dont even need 2 stunbreakers anymore and get room for nades?). And lay down that arrogance plz, because this is nothing but embarrassing. Or dont show us your vids if you wanna brag like that, maybe youre a bit more convincing then. :P

Besides that, just try grenades dude, there are many reasons each top tier engi is playing them.
And btw: Your big idol Teldo(who indeed played very well) used grenades quite often as well, and im 100% sure he would use them nowadays as well. You know, metas are changing from time to time.

Mister Fluffkin.7358:

Dsquaredcri.9421:

http://www.twitch.tv/dsquared89
Watch me playing there are 3 teamq videos then you’ll understand how to stealth why stealth how to dont lose stealth and why iam useful. You will not see nowadays engis play as good as you’ll see on my twitch, dont you?

You really need to get down your high horse dude. xD

Theres absoultly no intend to flame you or something like that, but i checked out your vids, and honestly, this is solid average.
While im fine with most of your rotations and movement in general, your dodging is some of the most weird ive seen so far. Youre in a 1on1, putting supply crate on your foe or stun him with shield #4. First thing you do after stunning him: dodge. Or in teamfights: no one is even looking into your direction, but you just burn all your dodges just for movement(???), getting shield bashed and eviscerated afterwards. I dont wanna say im dodging each skill i should, but if you claim to be the best, you should definetly improve this a lot(maybe then you dont even need 2 stunbreakers anymore and get room for nades?). And lay down that arrogance plz, because this is nothing but embarrassing. Or dont show us your vids if you wanna brag like that, maybe youre a bit more convincing then. :P

Besides that, just try grenades dude, there are many reasons each top tier engi is playing them.
And btw: Your big idol Teldo(who indeed played very well) used grenades quite often as well, and im 100% sure he would use them nowadays as well. You know, metas are changing from time to time.

I like be how i am cause i always like flames

Dsquaredcri.9421:

I like be how i am cause i always like flames

well if youd rather antagonize your fellow engis than try to have a discussion… c ya wouldnt wanna be ya

ill just go find some other thread to read instead of a mix of circle rub & flame fest

Dsquaredcri.9421:

I did not invented nothing ofc, iam using almost same traits since beta in 2012.

This concerns me. I would hope you’ve adjusted to the changing meta and updates to the game over the course of 2 years. After all isn’t that what a good player, let alone the best, would do?