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Uuuhhh, thank you so much for the download versions. Can’t wait for it to finish. And thanks for putting all the work in it
Cheers!
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You might rewatch the vids, Eviator. Maskaganda is always sauntering back across his loot bags and picking them up. He just does it without breaking stride so it’s easy to miss. (That said I’m posting before I’ve watched this movie so I’m definitely speaking out of turn.) Ok. I take it back. 
I run this build and survivability is NOT an issue (well not for me. The other side does have problems.) It is an attrition build and works best when folks don’t decide to try to form a human pyramid on you. 1v1 I have problems with the thieves that can tie up a 5 man and there are some mesmers out there that eventually we get tired of trying to kill each other. Everything else is warm buttery toast.
Mmm toast.
It bugs me to no end that you don’t pick up loot bags in battle. That said, it’s great to see your amazing work using another build which looks like a lot of fun. I think the key to your success here is your skill in survival. My guess is the averge person would probably have survivability issues with this build.
In your preview post a week or two ago you mentioned moving around traits to get Formula 409. Your build calculator doesn’t have it. Did you decide to just go without a condition cleanser for now, or is the build link out-of-date?
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Awesome video Maskaganda!! I loved the parts with The Teokno Vinking, he for sure could soak a heavy beating like a bause! Lòoked like they for some reason often focused him? Gues it’s cause his a big kitten norn? Anyway! solid gameplay as allways, and the Prybar for sure give your damage an extra beating!
Tbh, I’m still waiting on a nerf on that thing, I don’t think it can go on as this, it’s simply a to strong tool in WvW for Engineers, so either they nerf Prybar, or nerf Confusion in general in WvW (which probaly is the best! But let’s enjoy it while it lat hehe!
Well there’s only really four viable items to slot there. Self-Regulating Defense, Protection Injection, Potent Elixers, and 409. PE can be swapped out thanks to the Runes.
Of the remaining I would think on paper that PI was the strongest. Ideally you never get to 25% hp for S-RD to kick in and (at least in my experience) I don’t have tosses/drinks waiting around to clear conditions with 409. However, I’ve run PI and I can’t recommend it. 1vSmall you aren’t getting banged around enough to get a lot of use. There is a Ranger/Ranger/Thief group I see occasionally that I’ve learned to leave well enough alone. The rangers bang you around so you can’t move and the thief goes to town. I found the same issue taking on 2x Rifle/SD/Net Turret Engis that worked as a team and I never got off the floor before they put me on it again. So not enough gain against small groups and against constant CC and/or a zerg the protection you get doesn’t really keep you alive much longer.
So 409 vs S-RD. I think it’s an either-or thing on playstyle but my abhorrence of thieves and the feeling I don’t get as much use of 409 as I could because of HGH and wanting the bufs to give me the edge means S-RD is what I run with. Note that S-RD, Toolkit, and S up is 9(!!) seconds that nobody can touch you. For roaming that’s almost always overkill. For the keep attack/defend that I’ve been doing lately it means I can be popping someone from the wall, charge when they get too close, drop and S-spike them in the middle of their zerg, and still get back into the keep. It’s a small and perhaps cheap pleasure but I do enjoy it.
about the loot bags, I don’t know why I don’t pick some of them up; I guess that between all the keypresses and stuff to keep track of, my brain just prioritizes other stuff over looting.
about the defensive part of this build: I like to think it’s pretty solid, there’s no lack of invulnerability, no lack of condition removal, plenty of swiftness/vigor/protection.
I had a recording of me fighting 2 decent condition thieves at the same time for 8 minutes, I downed them half a dozen times but I could never get the stomp, I think that speaks for itself regarding survivability.Also, on those 2 larger fights at the end I was running with my guardian buddy (The Tekno Viking) and he has been described as a beast, he helps alot keeping me alive. I found this with my thief when duoing with him: if you force most players to disengage from you often enough (using S, gear block, stealth, cripple, etc or with the thief just perma stealth), they will focus on the slow moving -unkillable- hulk and leave you alone.
@lanny, I see self regulating defense working, but I usually stay away from automatic actions (not boons) if I can. it’s a personal thing, I just don’t like having something happen that can interrupt what I’m doing.
@MeanMug, the Pistol/Pistol skills all gain a lot from Power aswell actually, Blowtorch can be quite the nuke (seen his do 3-4k crits), and poison volley and stastic shot can dish out a good amount of power damage aswell! That’s why this kind of build gain the most out of might stacks, because it benift from both the condition damage and power damage! This means you will have an opening “power” damage when you prybar or blowtorch, followed up by the condition damage, and in that way will put pressure on the enemy from two ways!
Also about 40% Critical chance is more then fine in this kind og builds, mostly cause in combat they will have fury up 100% of the time and that’s a 60% crit chance!
Boon duration runes are taken over condition duration in this kind of build because all your defense come from your boons, and a lot of bonus damage aswell, so you want it up as much as you can (Swiftness, Protection, Regen ect. He will often in combat have 1 min of regen going ect.) but also the Fury and might you wanna give the most uptime you can! So it’s simply because you throw out so many boons that you want a longer duration on it
The bomb kit skill 3 gives 5 confusion stacks in an AoE for 5 seconds, so that’s the same as the Prybar! You can make a build with that instead of toolit, but you would have to move 10 point from inventions or firearms into Explosives for the larger explosive radius! Hope that answears your questions
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THX for build man , i am testing it on PvP and its quite good