Guild Wars 2

Now I understand that the idea behind HGH it to stack might. How ever when i look might up in the wiki, it states that it stack in intensity NOT duration. Meaning if i get the 20s might from HGH, then 5 seconds later I get 1 more for 10 seconds, in total i would get 5 seconds might1, 10 seconds might2, 5 seconds might 1 again not 2, not a total of 15 secs at might 2 either.

Now while i agree might is good, i dont think 1 or 2 pips of might is going to actually matter much.

Disclaimer, assumed HGH = 1 might for simplicity sakes.

HGH has a 20s base duration. Going 30 points into Alchemy gives you 30% additional boon duration and HGH builds typically run boon duration runes which give another 40% boon duration total, meaning that you get 70% extra boon duration. This means that HGH has a 34s duration on one stack of might. Elixir H has a 20s cooldown, which means that you can (most of the time) keep 2 stacks of might up using it. Elixir R has a 32s cooldown, gives 34s of might from HGH and 51s of might naturally. The toolbelt skills from both of those also only have 30s and 20s cooldowns respectively. Basically, engineer has a whole bunch of abilities that give one or more stacks of might, and have shorter cooldowns than the duration of the might buffs.

You are right 1-2 pips of might won’t do much.

HGH builds are usually focused around at least 2 expendable Elixirs (H,B,C,R(?)) that can be spammed, along with Boon(Might) Duration Runes.
So alone you will usually be sitting around 12-15 stacks of Might sometimes able to reach 20 or so and THAT will make a very BIG difference.

HGH is a higher risk type of gameplay because it requires constant vigilance and Elixir spamming to keep yourself at that elevated level and any Boon stripping will leave you very vulnerable.

at least half of your might stacks come from Sigil of Battle and the constant swapping between weapon and grenade kit. HGH builds typically carry between 70% and 90% might duration through a combination of duration increases (Alchemy, Runes). E.g. each of those might stacks lasts a loooonnnngggg time. Battle gives 3 stacks of Might every 9 sec, which might not seem like much until you’re half way through a team fight and notice that you’ve suddenly got 20+ stacks of might going when you started with only 6.

Going HGH assures that you have full boon duration from traits.

There are other ways to obtain might stack as well: Sigil of Battle, Enhance Performance, Rune of Altruism and Lyssa.

By simply activating my medkit (or much more rarely, Elixir H) in combat, I instantly get 9-10 stacks of might. That’s without using a single elixir.

Halcyon.7352:

Going HGH assures that you have full boon duration from traits.

There are other ways to obtain might stack as well: Sigil of Battle, Enhance Performance, Rune of Altruism and Lyssa.

By simply activating my medkit (or much more rarely, Elixir H) in combat, I instantly get 9-10 stacks of might. That’s without using a single elixir.

Rune of altruism also trigger on yourself? Didn’t know this, but I can’t understand how can you combine altruism and lyssa! Isn’t better to use 2 altruism 2 rune fire 2 rune strength?

Halcyon.7352:

Going HGH assures that you have full boon duration from traits.

There are other ways to obtain might stack as well: Sigil of Battle, Enhance Performance, Rune of Altruism and Lyssa.

By simply activating my medkit (or much more rarely, Elixir H) in combat, I instantly get 9-10 stacks of might. That’s without using a single elixir.

If you’re using Grenades, taking Enhance Performance over Explosive Powder is a huge mistake. Don’t know if you are or not, but thought you should know.

borbottone.6241:

Rune of altruism also trigger on yourself? Didn’t know this, but I can’t understand how can you combine altruism and lyssa! Isn’t better to use 2 altruism 2 rune fire 2 rune strength?

Honestly the Lyssa is mostly leftover from my old KR multikit build, there probably are better runes combinations. I just happened to like the random boon and precision.

Even without the additional might duration though, I often find myself at between 12-24 stacks of might, depending on how on top of the heal activation I am.

And yep, Altruism does trigger on self.

AlietteFaye.7316:

If you’re using Grenades, taking Enhance Performance over Explosive Powder is a huge mistake. Don’t know if you are or not, but thought you should know.

I switch them out, depending on what I need. I don’t always use grenades/bombs, I often switch for toolkit or, more rarely, flamethrower.

I’m not always in 100% dps mode, and I also do get tired of spamming buttons and aiming for skillshots at times.

which is might duration gained from rune of altruism?

What I don’t really get is why this is a problem, when Elementalists have already had mega might stacking since beta (and nobody complained about that).

I thought they nerfed that, too?

fiftypercentgrey.7108:

I thought they nerfed that, too?

Not to my knowledge. Sigil of Battle in an ele boon build stacks for quite a bit of might, and we have blast finishers and fire fields all over the place. The main reason I think people stopped bringing ‘might on cantrip cast’ is because we’re already pretty high up there without it. With fire aure gaining might on hits, one could argue eles have more might than ever.

But I digress. What I’d really like to know is why might stacking is overpowered on an engineer, but acceptable on an elementalist.

fiftypercentgrey.7108:

I thought they nerfed that, too?

Definitely not. Scepter/Dagger elementalists can do 18 aoe stacks of might alone in one quick rotation with fire fields and blast finishers.

I might add, this is without Might runes or sigils, or even boon/might duration. D/D can do it nearly as well too.

The difference between might stacking ele and HGH engi is: ele deals no dmg compared to HGH build.