Guild Wars 2

… I know “it’s a minion, minions have their own stats, phantasms are an exception” etc etc. But it just makes no sense for a skill like the blast gyro to behave like this! It makes sense for actual minions like pets and necro summons or elementals, but not for onehitwonders wich are basicly just fancy animations for a “projectile”.

I suggest those things to give the blast gyro the “thing” to make it actually useful:

• reduce the damage by 33%
• let it inherit the stats of the scrapper, like a phantasm

It would also be great if the daze of the gyros would work with expert examination, the trait that appleis vuln and weakness on daze and stun …

Thank you for reading and please bush this if you agree!

greez
- Ziggy!

Hey Ziggy!

I personally have very mixed feelings about this. If they would give Blast Gyro the stats from the Scrapper you could indeed do alot more damage. However when you play a condition build it will become useless.

I actually think it is fine right now, maybe slightly higher crit chance would be nice. Currently it seems to be critting around 20% of the times, critting for about 4.5K.

They should rather improve the Gyro itself. Problems right now is that you can’t even use it when you are on a ledge since the gyro is having trouble flying down there. They should make it like the Ventari Tablet. That can be moved in a straight line anythwere as long as it’s in range.

Greetings, V

just delete it from the game

@ The V

The problem with it having it’s own stats are beyond than making it “viable” for condis.

If the gyro does not inherit our stats, the crit chance is terrible, (4% like every minion), and wich is much more important → unaffected by the might banners and buffs WE have.

Condi engi couldn’t really use this gyro anyway, but I see your point there. Therefore I suggest another change:

• add 3 stacks of burning for 5 seconds on this gyro

This would make it an ok condi option if cc is needed, aswell finally a great power skill. Yet those would again just work IF THEY INHERIT OUR POWER AND CONDI DAMAGE.

ANet you really have to adress this issue with that skill. Is so insanly CLOSE to be a great skill. But it’s on the edge of “useless” … -ness … or something :<

Please a statement! >.<

Huh… Fancy animation for a projectile. I actually never looked at it that way but suddenly I feel less satisfied with it.

Xyonon.3987:

@ The V

The problem with it having it’s own stats are beyond than making it “viable” for condis.

If the gyro does not inherit our stats, the crit chance is terrible, (4% like every minion), and wich is much more important -> unaffected by the might banners and buffs WE have.

Condi engi couldn’t really use this gyro anyway, but I see your point there. Therefore I suggest another change:

• add 3 stacks of burning for 5 seconds on this gyro

This would make it an ok condi option if cc is needed, aswell finally a great power skill. Yet those would again just work IF THEY INHERIT OUR POWER AND CONDI DAMAGE.

ANet you really have to adress this issue with that skill. Is so insanly CLOSE to be a great skill. But it’s on the edge of “useless” … -ness … or something :<

Please a statement! >.<

I personally don’t think it would see much use even in condi builds with that change. It’s more viable in decap builds as it’s more reliable than big Ol’ bomb and on a shorter cooldown.

Also it heals you up to 3k hp

Xyonon.3987:

If the gyro does not inherit our stats, the crit chance is terrible, (4% like every minion)

I have been testing this while I was waiting for matches for the last 2 weeks. I have currently thrown out 312 blast gyro’s, of which 60 were crits. This would roughly be 20% crit chance. I know it’s not a very high number, but it ceratinly is higher than 4%. (I am sure there were no buffs like AoE fury or banners etc.)

Xyonon.3987:

Condi engi couldn’t really use this gyro anyway

You are mistaking here. This hard CC is really really strong in condition builds even tho it doesn’t apply condition. his blowout will result in about 2seconds the enemy can’t do anything. This means my conditions can tick for 2 seconds freely. If this happens just after I unleashed condition burst, it will easily result in 8K damage exclusing the Gyro damage.

Xyonon.3987:

add 3 stacks of burning for 5 seconds on this gyro

Eventho this seems very appealing, it would be way too strong. It has a 20 seconds cooldown, can be thrown in every direction, huge blowout, player stats and burning, that is huge. They would have to increase the cooldown to justify it’s effects. I’dd personally see the 20s cooldown without burning then.

I am not trying to completely dismantle your suggestions, however I just want to show it does have use right now and that your changes also will have bad sides.
keep up the good threads and helping other engi’s, I remember you helping me about 2 years ago

Greetings, V

its AI is crap to begin with, whats the point of tagging someone in wvw, and the gyro either stays there/get stuck in terrain, or it just totally go full kitten by hitting someone else.

The V.8759:

I actually think it is fine right now, maybe slightly higher crit chance would be nice. Currently it seems to be critting around 20% of the times, critting for about 4.5K.

I’ve tested this in the mists quite a bit, and mine didnt crit nearly as much. I’m not sure Anet even wants this to crit, but if they do, then yes the chance needs to reflect the scrappers own precision.

edit
I tested it again, at 80% crit chance it critted 1 out of 20 hits.

Stand The Wall.6987:

The V.8759:

I actually think it is fine right now, maybe slightly higher crit chance would be nice. Currently it seems to be critting around 20% of the times, critting for about 4.5K.

I’ve tested this in the mists quite a bit, and mine didnt crit nearly as much. I’m not sure Anet even wants this to crit, but if they do, then yes the chance needs to reflect the scrappers own precision.

edit
I tested it again, at 80% crit chance it critted 1 out of 20 hits.

it has been stated by someone from Anet already that gyros do not get stats from players , except Power for blast gyro and healing power for medi gyro

alright.

Rezzet.3614:

Stand The Wall.6987:

The V.8759:

I actually think it is fine right now, maybe slightly higher crit chance would be nice. Currently it seems to be critting around 20% of the times, critting for about 4.5K.

I’ve tested this in the mists quite a bit, and mine didnt crit nearly as much. I’m not sure Anet even wants this to crit, but if they do, then yes the chance needs to reflect the scrappers own precision.

edit
I tested it again, at 80% crit chance it critted 1 out of 20 hits.

it has been stated by someone from Anet already that gyros do not get stats from players , except Power for blast gyro and healing power for medi gyro

Power from blast gyro? That’s a lie. The number shown in the tooltip is the “power from engi”. If you see the uncritted damage and then use bomb1 uncrittet and compare the damage you’ll notice – NO this is NOT the engis power transfered to the gyro.

This gyro is atm only for cc, heal, superspeed. Damge is always almost zero, especially in parties where it doesn’ have might …