Guild Wars 2

So what happened to promised condition buffs to pistols for engineer and thief? You guys at ANet even admitted engis got short end of the stick after all the nerfs yet nothing.

You were “reading” notes in that interview with supposed changes yet nothing like that in this patch.

Meh.

Man if there is something engineer doesn’t need, is a condition buff.

Right now, we are one of the best condition class in the game. And it’s best build in tPvP.

While I do agree we don’t really need condition dmg buffs thieves do and it’s odd to tell us we’re getting a condition dmg buff while in the end we didn’t get such buff.

Kardiamond.6952:

Man if there is something engineer doesn’t need, is a condition buff.

Right now, we are one of the best condition class in the game. And it’s best build in tPvP.

Someone hasn’t played tournaments competitvely it seems. Condi engie has no real place in current meta. It used to be good when combined with pre nerf bombs but nowadays most ppl learned to avoid bombs either way.

Everything engie does, Ranger does better in this department.

Engie condition got double dipped by cleanse buffs and nerfs to sigil of earth + ICD + #1 pistol skill nerf + lots of other things.

I haven’t seen condi engie in a long time.

HGH condi nade variants are quite viable imo.

Resouled.5614:

HGH condi nade variants are quite viable imo.

That is one viable thing indeed. That is elixirs + nades.

Still don’t see why pistols should suck on their own. No other class needs 2 weapon sets to do 1 thing good

Right now grenades are better tan everything due to aoe + condis + high power based dmg besides condis, unlike pistols

Elixer bomb with KR might be viable too. Have been playing it for a while now and seems decent. Not as strong as condi nades though but good in node assault or defence.

Killyox.3950:

Kardiamond.6952:

Man if there is something engineer doesn’t need, is a condition buff.

Right now, we are one of the best condition class in the game. And it’s best build in tPvP.

Someone hasn’t played tournaments competitvely it seems. Condi engie has no real place in current meta. It used to be good when combined with pre nerf bombs but nowadays most ppl learned to avoid bombs either way.

Everything engie does, Ranger does better in this department.

Engie condition got double dipped by cleanse buffs and nerfs to sigil of earth + ICD + #1 pistol skill nerf + lots of other things.

I haven’t seen condi engie in a long time.

Say that to Teldo and Five Gauge, who both use PP conditions build.

Resouled.5614:

While I do agree we don’t really need condition dmg buffs thieves do and it’s odd to tell us we’re getting a condition dmg buff while in the end we didn’t get such buff.

Thieves don’t need any buffs at all unless stealth is nerfed to balance out whatever buff they get.

Nothing was promised, it was merely mentioned. Discussing possible changes in a State of the Game is by no means a binding contract for the next patch. It could be in a later patch or it could be decided against completely.

The only condi-buffs I think we need are in Explosive Shot and underutilized builds anyway. Our strongest condi-builds are actually pretty competitive as they are. Heck, they are seen as fully competitive in today’s tPvP metagame.

timidobserver.7925:

Resouled.5614:

While I do agree we don’t really need condition dmg buffs thieves do and it’s odd to tell us we’re getting a condition dmg buff while in the end we didn’t get such buff.

Thieves don’t need any buffs at all unless stealth is nerfed to balance out whatever buff they get.

Prolong revealed by 1s is quite a stealth nerf and so is the 5s reduce on caltrops. Condi thieves are terrible atm. Only thing that makes them somewhat good was caltrops+malice but even that was crap in current meta. And deathblossom is the most obvious skill ever. Only P/D is somewhat viable in WvW but the revealed nerf makes that a lot less effective too.

Even if pistols were buffed in their condition department, they would probably still be inferior to grenades as far as condition damage goes. Frankly I see no reason to not buff something when it would still be inferior to the best.

But… engies are pretty good at conditioning though…. why would we need a buff? And if we did get a buff, where would it go?

Killyox.3950:

Kardiamond.6952:

Man if there is something engineer doesn’t need, is a condition buff.

Right now, we are one of the best condition class in the game. And it’s best build in tPvP.

Someone hasn’t played tournaments competitvely it seems. Condi engie has no real place in current meta. It used to be good when combined with pre nerf bombs but nowadays most ppl learned to avoid bombs either way.

Everything engie does, Ranger does better in this department.

Engie condition got double dipped by cleanse buffs and nerfs to sigil of earth + ICD + #1 pistol skill nerf + lots of other things.

I haven’t seen condi engie in a long time.

Lol unfortunately for the “Rangers” that do it better, I can kill them due to my ability to reapply conditions just as fast as they remove them. If I lose to a Ranger, it’s because he popped his elite and I had no counter off-cooldown.

And how can you say you haven’t seen a condi engie in a long time? Have you been playing SPvP at all? There’s NOTHING BUT condi Engies with P/P. To the point where it just kitten es me off.

For those that don’t know, the first big condition buff came in the form of fixing Giver’s weapon’s condition duration. This has opened a ton of new builds for not just Engineer, but others as well.

How does this affect the Engineer the most? See my thread below and I will explain how this was a buff.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/The-New-Meta-for-WvW/first

Yeah great buff for PvP..

Goloith.6349:

For those that don’t know, the first big condition buff came in the form of fixing Giver’s weapon’s condition duration. This has opened a ton of new builds for not just Engineer, but others as well.

How does this affect the Engineer the most? See my thread below and I will explain how this was a buff.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/The-New-Meta-for-WvW/first

I’d classify that as a game fix rather than a buff. I’d say if we need a buff it is NOT in the condition category. That build Goloith has u kitten olid as all get-out, I used it before the cond duration bugs. Imo, I think we’re lacking in the burst category unless we’re full GC.

Killyox.3950:

Kardiamond.6952:

Man if there is something engineer doesn’t need, is a condition buff.

Right now, we are one of the best condition class in the game. And it’s best build in tPvP.

Someone hasn’t played tournaments competitvely it seems. Condi engie has no real place in current meta. It used to be good when combined with pre nerf bombs but nowadays most ppl learned to avoid bombs either way.

Everything engie does, Ranger does better in this department.

Engie condition got double dipped by cleanse buffs and nerfs to sigil of earth + ICD + #1 pistol skill nerf + lots of other things.

I haven’t seen condi engie in a long time.

That must be you..

In WvW there is a lot of condi Engineers. PvP that’s a tough one.

Goloith.6349:

In WvW there is a lot of condi Engineers. PvP that’s a tough one.

By a lot you mean maybe 3-4 out of 100? At least on my server playing WvW I see maybe 5 engies tops and some running other than PP. Maybe it is different on other servers. Or has changed in last day since I staying out of game due to WvW being 100 man zergs of people farming Wxp.

Dirame.8521:

Killyox.3950:

Kardiamond.6952:

Man if there is something engineer doesn’t need, is a condition buff.

Right now, we are one of the best condition class in the game. And it’s best build in tPvP.

Someone hasn’t played tournaments competitvely it seems. Condi engie has no real place in current meta. It used to be good when combined with pre nerf bombs but nowadays most ppl learned to avoid bombs either way.

Everything engie does, Ranger does better in this department.

Engie condition got double dipped by cleanse buffs and nerfs to sigil of earth + ICD + #1 pistol skill nerf + lots of other things.

I haven’t seen condi engie in a long time.

Lol unfortunately for the “Rangers” that do it better, I can kill them due to my ability to reapply conditions just as fast as they remove them. If I lose to a Ranger, it’s because he popped his elite and I had no counter off-cooldown.

And how can you say you haven’t seen a condi engie in a long time? Have you been playing SPvP at all? There’s NOTHING BUT condi Engies with P/P. To the point where it just kitten es me off.

Where? In hot joins or tournaments? Also i dont talk about VS ranger i talk about ranger being better at applying those conditions.

Getting 4s bleed back on #1 pistol would go long way already instead of current 2s

Goloith.6349:

In WvW there is a lot of condi Engineers. PvP that’s a tough one.

Yeaaahh. Been running with my friends guild yesterday in an organized “zerg”. besides me there were maybe 2 engies out of 50 ppl.

Killyox.3950:

Goloith.6349:

In WvW there is a lot of condi Engineers. PvP that’s a tough one.

Yeaaahh. Been running with my friends guild yesterday in an organized “zerg”. besides me there were maybe 2 engies out of 50 ppl.

PP Condition engineer have always been the flavor in s/tPvP. Just follow top team, that’s what they are using.

During the 100nade era, they started using it too, but most kept their Condition build.

I feel like you are ether being dishonest, or you don’t play that much tPvP.

I said PvP, that’s a tough one because I rarely play structured PvP.