Guild Wars 2

Hey guys,

I’ve recently come back to Guild Wars 2 and am pretty much enjoying PvE. Back in the good ol’ days I played all my 6 Level 80 characters in PvP and they seemed pretty balanced.

Now all of a sudden it seems as if Guardians are the most present PvP class and I just can’t handle them at all with my Engineer.
I’m running a 30/10/0/30/0 HGH build with a grenade kit some elixirs and rocket boots for a quick getaway. I’m not doing awfuly bad but against guardians, nope.

Especialy the ones with hammers. My issue with them is that they seem to have several stunlocks in a row which adds up to about 8 seconds of either down or stunned.

Had this one guy who started out with a jump, then some kick, some smash with his hammer again, the jump again…and he kept me in a stunlock.
I switched to Elixir S to see if I can escape with it. No chance whatsoever.

Now I really don’t want to switch to my Guardian and do the same thing, just to enjoy the game, so any advice would be greatly appreciated. I know that some comments will be “LOL l2p Engin33r id1ot!11eleven” but that is pretty common in any forum.

Thank you and yours truly.

EDIT:
Playing with a rifle (Sigil of Battle), 2x Fire Strength Lyssa, Rabid Amulet with Rabid Gem. Tried 2 pistols but that just killed be quicker as there was no way to net or knockdown.

Velron.3729:

HypnotoadProductions.3981:

Hmm, it was definetly a guardian, not a warrior.
And yeah he lept a lot, tried to dodge it but as soon as I dodged he just followed with a kick that stunned me anyway.

I have been playing a few more games and it seems like these guys are just the majority right now (Guardians that is). I think the best way here is just to run when they approach as they are pretty much impossible to kill due to so many stunlocks.

(Here’s a how the fight went usualy:
-> Leap -> Stunned -> Stunlock -> Dead
-> Leap -> Dodge -> Some Kick -> Stunlock -> Dead
-> Leap -> Dodge -> Some kick -> (50% dodge) -> Some swing -> Stunlock -> Dead

Looks like once they get you with one hit you’re toast. Also tried some blinds but one guy was even faster than I am. Even with sprint and rocket boots he all of a sudden appeared behind me again after a second or so.

Unless I can blind them for pretty much forever, which I doubt I can, there’s no way to get all his stunlocks out of the way.

I guess I have to log onto my Guardian, google the build and see exactly how unfair it is.

Your description of the encounter does NOT sound like a Guardian, they do not have ability to stunlock anyone that I am aware of.

First of all thank you for the answer,

and yes I’m 100% certain that it was a guardian, unless the icon lies of course. Which I doubt. I’m also not sure if there’s a new exploit as I’ve gone through all the skills and people seem to be using skills from other classes, which is odd.

And yes, he was using the hammer leap (which the guardian doesn’t have) as well as the kick from the Warrior. That being said he also (in 1vs1) made me burn blue and used Chains of Light (#3 Scepter on Guardian).

Stunningly this player wiped out one guy after another, even when we ganged him.
Oh and he never used “100 Blades”.

I guess I have to google a bit and see if there’s another exploit that let’s you get wrong skills. If I’m not mistaken they already had something similar with the Necro getting Thief skills on Dagger Dagger with some weird disconnect.

I’ll just mark this as solved due to a possible exploit and thank everybody for trying to solve my issue.

That sounds more like a hammer control warrior you fought, not a gaurdian. Hammer warriors are notorious in spvp for their stunlocks.

Hammer warriors or guardians love blinds :-)
Blind them, kite them and dodge when they leap towards you.

Hmm, it was definetly a guardian, not a warrior.
And yeah he lept a lot, tried to dodge it but as soon as I dodged he just followed with a kick that stunned me anyway.

I have been playing a few more games and it seems like these guys are just the majority right now (Guardians that is). I think the best way here is just to run when they approach as they are pretty much impossible to kill due to so many stunlocks.

(Here’s a how the fight went usualy:
→ Leap → Stunned → Stunlock → Dead
→ Leap → Dodge → Some Kick → Stunlock → Dead
→ Leap → Dodge → Some kick → (50% dodge) → Some swing → Stunlock → Dead

Looks like once they get you with one hit you’re toast. Also tried some blinds but one guy was even faster than I am. Even with sprint and rocket boots he all of a sudden appeared behind me again after a second or so.

Unless I can blind them for pretty much forever, which I doubt I can, there’s no way to get all his stunlocks out of the way.

I guess I have to log onto my Guardian, google the build and see exactly how unfair it is.

Alrighty guys, something must be definetly wrong with either me or the class.
Just tested a few of my other classes that I haven’t played in so long and I steamroll everybody with ’em.

With the Mesmer I was able to keep up with 1 Hammer Guardian, 1 Hammer Warrior and their Elementalist friend. Killed ’em all.
And the other classes look sort of familiar. Of course not as crazy as the Mesmer but similar none the less.

Meanwhile I’m struggling with the Engineer I played up from 1-80 over the last 2 weeks. Tried a flamethrower survivability build, which is alright but the damage output as a bunker is just so low that everybody survives me or runs away.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post but I feel it’s update worthy

HypnotoadProductions.3981:

Hmm, it was definetly a guardian, not a warrior.
And yeah he lept a lot, tried to dodge it but as soon as I dodged he just followed with a kick that stunned me anyway.

I have been playing a few more games and it seems like these guys are just the majority right now (Guardians that is). I think the best way here is just to run when they approach as they are pretty much impossible to kill due to so many stunlocks.

(Here’s a how the fight went usualy:
-> Leap -> Stunned -> Stunlock -> Dead
-> Leap -> Dodge -> Some Kick -> Stunlock -> Dead
-> Leap -> Dodge -> Some kick -> (50% dodge) -> Some swing -> Stunlock -> Dead

Looks like once they get you with one hit you’re toast. Also tried some blinds but one guy was even faster than I am. Even with sprint and rocket boots he all of a sudden appeared behind me again after a second or so.

Unless I can blind them for pretty much forever, which I doubt I can, there’s no way to get all his stunlocks out of the way.

I guess I have to log onto my Guardian, google the build and see exactly how unfair it is.

Your description of the encounter does NOT sound like a Guardian, they do not have ability to stunlock anyone that I am aware of.

Warrior however most certainly could leap/rush at you, daze/stun you then proceed to stunlock you, swap to GS then use 100Blades and burst you down. Its what I run on my Warrior and it is a VERY hard counter atm to Engineers and Necros – not much stability access for these 2.

The hit being landed on you is ’Skull Crack" the mace burst ability for Warrior.

The trick to beating the build is to remain calm, do not panic and hit your stun breaker on the first one or two stuns. Wait for the big one – as soon as he makes the switch to Greatsword. THIS is when you stunbreak and dodge. Now you better start CCing him and applying enough counter pressure.

Most of them run Mace/Shield (double block setup) with reflect on block. Be careful of the Mace raised animation and Shield raised animations that show when they are blocking – if you tool kit here is a good time to Magnet into Prybar then continue to CC and apply counter pressure.

Edit – I forgot to note. The Mace/Shield setup contains 1 daze – skill +3, 1 short stun – shield bash, and 1 monster stun (3-4seconds) on the mace burst ability. They will engage you and try to make you waste your stun breaker on the Shield Bash or the Daze (forgot skill name)….you MUST wait for the Skull Crack – and after Skull Crack he will go to GS to 100 Blades you.

And a GS Warrior with movement speed and mobile strikes (movement skills remove immob) is probably the most mobile thing in the game. That’s why you can’t get away. My warrior almost never dies because of this and almost no one gets away (except stealth of course).

Here you go…this is where the basis for the popularity of the build is coming from. People adapting this to s/tPVP.

Watching the video will give you a great idea of how the playstyle for the build works and how it succeeds. From there you can better figure out how to fight against it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/2-Videos-Matale-8-WvWvW-1vX-and-Duels/first

HypnotoadProductions.3981:

Velron.3729:

HypnotoadProductions.3981:

Hmm, it was definetly a guardian, not a warrior.
And yeah he lept a lot, tried to dodge it but as soon as I dodged he just followed with a kick that stunned me anyway.

I have been playing a few more games and it seems like these guys are just the majority right now (Guardians that is). I think the best way here is just to run when they approach as they are pretty much impossible to kill due to so many stunlocks.

(Here’s a how the fight went usualy:
-> Leap -> Stunned -> Stunlock -> Dead
-> Leap -> Dodge -> Some Kick -> Stunlock -> Dead
-> Leap -> Dodge -> Some kick -> (50% dodge) -> Some swing -> Stunlock -> Dead

Looks like once they get you with one hit you’re toast. Also tried some blinds but one guy was even faster than I am. Even with sprint and rocket boots he all of a sudden appeared behind me again after a second or so.

Unless I can blind them for pretty much forever, which I doubt I can, there’s no way to get all his stunlocks out of the way.

I guess I have to log onto my Guardian, google the build and see exactly how unfair it is.

Your description of the encounter does NOT sound like a Guardian, they do not have ability to stunlock anyone that I am aware of.

First of all thank you for the answer,

and yes I’m 100% certain that it was a guardian, unless the icon lies of course. Which I doubt. I’m also not sure if there’s a new exploit as I’ve gone through all the skills and people seem to be using skills from other classes, which is odd.

And yes, he was using the hammer leap (which the guardian doesn’t have) as well as the kick from the Warrior. That being said he also (in 1vs1) made me burn blue and used Chains of Light (#3 Scepter on Guardian).

Stunningly this player wiped out one guy after another, even when we ganged him.
Oh and he never used “100 Blades”.

I guess I have to google a bit and see if there’s another exploit that let’s you get wrong skills. If I’m not mistaken they already had something similar with the Necro getting Thief skills on Dagger Dagger with some weird disconnect.

I’ll just mark this as solved due to a possible exploit and thank everybody for trying to solve my issue.

Wow….this sounds pretty crazy!

Combining the sustain and cleansing of a Guardian with the control of a Warrior….scary.