Guild Wars 2

I am currently running this dual pistols condition build.
I do not have Heart of Thorns (yet), so I don’t have access to Scrapper.

This being said, I’m having problems against Necromancers in PvP, mostly the ones with Reaper Shroud. I can’t seem to get through their Shroud and some of them, I can’t even manage to cleanse most of their conditions because of how quickly they reapply them. Sometimes, ending up dying inside my Self-Regulating Defenses trait because of all the conditions.

I’m willing to change my spec around, but I’d like to stick with a condition build.
I also do not wish to use Elixir X, I know the Toss Elixir X can completely deny a Necromancer Shroud, but I find that Elixir X is utter garbage compared to Supply Crate.

I thought about using Flamethrower Kit for the tool belt, Napalm wall and Air Blast, but currently, I find that Elixir UCS are just too good with the traits I picked. Also thought about picking Rocket Boots but for the same reason as before, Elixirs just feel much better.

Only other class I have issue with are mesmers focusing on stealth and clones but I usually break even against them. (<3 Med Pack Drop)

I have played Necromancer a bit but not enough to know their builds and such.

Thank you for any tips/advices you can provide.

You are not going to beat a necro with a condition build, especially not a condition Engineer. My advice? Run away.

ellesee.8297:

You are not going to beat a necro with a condition build, especially not a condition Engineer. My advice? Run away.

That’s not really helpful… :/

I mean any condition you throw on them they will throw it right back to you. All their condition transfers are instant cast so there’s really no counter play except to get lucky. I find run away is infinitely more useful advice than get lucky.

But if you’re not convinced and still want to take one on, you can try baiting out their instant cast transfers. Maybe load them up with conditions and then drop a Supply Crate to stun and then dodge immediately because the Necromancer will probably use Plague Signet immediately. But it will be such a struggle and for the sake of your teammates, just run away.

Also drop Elixir U for Elixir Gun. Elixir U is not that great. Elixir Gun will give a stunbreak and more condi removal and some more poison damage.

Now that’s more helpful.
So if I see Plague Signet, I’ll bait it out, Elixir C, Supply Crate and Blowtorch.
Is there any other way they have to transfer conditions beside Plague Signet?

For skills, they have Suffer!, deathly swarm and putrid mark. As trait they may use necromantic corruption or plague sending (both passive).

So yes, the actual advice of running away a.k.a don’t duel them was a really good advice

Assuming fairly equal skill levels, a condi anything wont beat a necro. The only way a condi engie gonna win is by pure luck of dodging those signets and marks. You can defeat them by going slow and wearing them down until you go for the kill but that pretty much assume they let you do that. Most wont. Reapers will be nasty in melee and necros even nastier at max range while you only thrive at medium distance.

The only time I beat Condi Necros on my Condi Engi is when I am running a flamethrower condi build. And I have to outplay them to achieve this. I try to bait out their transfers and drop their health a bit, then I go all in with my condi burst and then use Elixir S. Necros generally lack condi clear, they instead have plenty of condi transfer. So if you remove a target for them to transfer to, and they either didn’t bring or used up their condi clear (such as consume conditions), and they have also used up most of their shroud, then they have no choice but to eat my condi burst.

However, that is alot of “if”. Most often this only works when I go up against a really bad Necro, or catch one off guard or that has already been weakened.

So in general, if you are condi going up against condi necro 1v1, the best advice unfortunately is to just leave.

Also, as mentioned swap Elixir U for Elixir Gun (3 elixir skills vs 2, still has a stun break, extra condi cleansing, and shorter cooldowns). Also, you don’t really have reliable swiftness to make use of Invigorating Speed. You might be better going with Protection Injection there instead.

Shaogin.2679:

Also, as mentioned swap Elixir U for Elixir Gun (3 elixir skills vs 2, still has a stun break, extra condi cleansing, and shorter cooldowns).

Does Fumigate remove conditions on myself as well or just allies?

Also, why would I swap Elixir U out? I don’t take Elixir U for the stun break, I take it for the projectile wall from Toss Elixir U and the 8.5s Quickness. If I was gonna change an elixir, I’d rather change Elixir C.

Edit: Just tested Fumigate and it doesn’t remove condition on myself. So I don’t see why I should use the Elixir Gun :/

Shorter cooldown stun break, Super Elixir will cure 2 condis instead of 1 with Alchemy, the stunbreak will cure a condi with Alchemy, blast finisher that also can disengage and does a lot of unblockable damage, team support, extra poison damage, extra sustain, etc etcetc

snaplemouton.1294:

Shaogin.2679:

Also, as mentioned swap Elixir U for Elixir Gun (3 elixir skills vs 2, still has a stun break, extra condi cleansing, and shorter cooldowns).

Does Fumigate remove conditions on myself as well or just allies?

Also, why would I swap Elixir U out? I don’t take Elixir U for the stun break, I take it for the projectile wall from Toss Elixir U and the 8.5s Quickness. If I was gonna change an elixir, I’d rather change Elixir C.

Edit: Just tested Fumigate and it doesn’t remove condition on myself. So I don’t see why I should use the Elixir Gun :/

Often used for super elixir alone. Acid bomb is great for giving the slip on reapers. If you combine short cooldown evasive skills with cc (acid bomb + blast gyro) you can get several seconds of them being flat on their kitten or them being at range, which is essential when using condi/hybrid builds against them.