Guild Wars 2

So if I place a bomb, then immediately gain might before the bomb goes off, is the damage going to include my newly acquired might? Does this also apply to the Big Ol Bomb?

Bomb damage can’t be reflected I take it, as it’s not a projectile? (99% positive on this one as I switch to it in certain fractals when reflect shields are killing me (grawl frac))

Traits which proc on critical (and sigils) will proc when bomb explosions go off, possibly inducing multiple procs? (99% sure on this as I’ve experimented a bit, but if there are interesting factoids that would be great to know).

shion.2084:

So if I place a bomb, then immediately gain might before the bomb goes off, is the damage going to include my newly acquired might? Does this also apply to the Big Ol Bomb?

Yes and yes, it wil do the damage based on your stats at the moment it applies the damage, not when you placed it.

shion.2084:

Bomb damage can’t be reflected I take it, as it’s not a projectile? (99% positive on this one as I switch to it in certain fractals when reflect shields are killing me (grawl frac))

No, it is an AoE, not a projectile.

shion.2084:

Traits which proc on critical (and sigils) will proc when bomb explosions go off, possibly inducing multiple procs? (99% sure on this as I’ve experimented a bit, but if there are interesting factoids that would be great to know).

Yes bombs can proc, and multiple times, ICD not withstanding. As well, pulses of fire bomb, smoke bomb, and glue bomb, can proc as well. They cannot proc crit procs, but they can proc “on hit” sigils and runes as well as traits such as steel packed powder.

Oh fun so those two seconds some buffs last don’t really affect the bombs, that explains alot.

coglin.1867:

shion.2084:

Traits which proc on critical (and sigils) will proc when bomb explosions go off, possibly inducing multiple procs? (99% sure on this as I’ve experimented a bit, but if there are interesting factoids that would be great to know).

Yes bombs can proc, and multiple times, ICD not withstanding. As well, pulses of fire bomb, smoke bomb, and glue bomb, can proc as well. They cannot proc crit procs, but they can proc “on hit” sigils and runes as well as traits such as steel packed powder.

Pulses of fire bomb can pro on hit aswell on crit stuff, since it really deals damage with every pulse and not just applies burn.
Pulses of smoke bomb can proc on hit effects of “explosions cause vulnerability”, yet it never proced any on hit sigil at my testings.
Pulses of glue bomb can’t proc nothing.

a “hit” is a damage-dealing action
smokebomb/gluebomb are not considered as “hit” since they don’t deal damage, therefore (with the exception of “sitting duck”) they will never proc traits or sigils. As simple as that. Additionally aegis / blocks do not protect against smokebomb, nor gluebomb, since aegis needs incoming damage in order to proc (and disappear). A enemy may suffer from your blinds and cripple/immob, still his aegis will be up until you deal a damaging action. The same goes for elementalists “arcane shield”.

to rule out some more questions:

Netshot vs aegis / block:
Netshot will be blocked by aegis since it is a projectile, which get handled differently by the engine, in order to count in reflects / projectile-destructions before applying the effect of the projectile on the target. Aegis and blocks (including “arcane shield”) do count as “projectile destruction”. This is also why “piercing” projectiles can’t pass blocking targets and s/d / pistol #3 looses its remaining bounces when hitting them.
WARNING: blocks and reflects do not protect against ballistas. many guardians tried. many guardians died. Many defenders laughed.
Still netshot does not count as “on hit”, therefore netshot will not proc sigils or traits. Only “sitting duck” is triggered by netshot and gluebomb, but not by the hitting projectile/bomb (which deals 0 damage), but by the applied immobilize.

The trait “elixir infused bombs”:
this trait only works on “exploding bombs”
firebomb may have a damaging tick, but only the spawn of the field is counted as “exploding bomb”, Same goes for smokebomb and gluebomb, even tho both don’t trigger “on hit” effects.
“Evasice Powder keg” is covered by “elixir infused bombs” and therefore will heal you. combine these traits with “packpack regenerator”, “infused precision” and “invigorating speed” to gain a impressive amount of HP-regeneration / sec along with great survivability. Superior sigil of Energy will be a worthwhile investment if you go down this route, and “forceful explosives” will make it even easier to land the heal on yourself after each dodge, without the need to backpedal anymore.

The trait “bunker down”
It spawns mines. Mines are not covered by elixir-infused bombs, so they will not heal you, nor will they rip boons like the mines from “throw mine” and “reserve mines” do. But they are able to trigger “on hit” effects like sigils and will proc “steel-packed powder”.

You just talk yet haven’t tested right? Go ingame and let a smoke bomb explode near a lv1 moa and see the vulnerability go up to 5 stacks. Then come back and say “I’m sorry”

Sure, attack those who spread knowledge and try to start an argument, instead of simply pointing out the mistake for correction.
What is wrong with you?

And tbh, I’ve actually never noticed this, because its one of those pointless bugs that shouldn’t be there, will be fixed some day, and don’t make a real difference for build-considerations anyways.
Unless you are a “teacher” for PvE only, I guess…

I didn’t attack you, you just felt that way … There is no argument behind facts that you can test and since there is no official statement from ANet you don’t know if it’s really a bug. Also just because it would be a bug doesn’t mean you could ignore this fact and tell somone “no it doesnt work”. It’s like with EG #5, when you say “it’s not mentioned that it cleanse conditions – I better tell anyone that it doesn’t”.

Don’t feel offended but I’m simply very direct to those who spread wrong information and ignore other posts.

does firebomb tick vuln?
does gluebomb tick vuln?
do poison nades tick vuln?
no?
bug it is.

firebomb does … cuz it deals damage. i also beleve it’s a bug but it’s the way it’s working right now

Hey,
Thanks for the great knowledge all. Good to know that I can BOB and then hit my might elixer. Saves me a couple of seconds.