Questions from a noob about PVE

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Posted by: Aldath.1275

Aldath.1275

Ok guys, trying to get into the Engi, as I’ve read he’s got one of the few and still reliable Power rotations for Fractals, and they say it’s a very fun and damaging class!

However I can’t seem to get past level 10 with him… Here are my questions.

1.- Which is the best kit to level him up? I find I take a long time to kill anythig with any weapon…

2.- How viable is Scrapper for “casual” PVE, like low level fractals and open world? Is the damage higher or lower than power Reaper?

3.- Is it worth to invest in Rampager gear while I grind to get the condition gear?

4.- Outside of Raids, is it needed to have a “pianist” rotation to be good?

Most of my questions surround zerk Engi/Scrapper btw.

Thanks!

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Posted by: bulauchenka.5382

bulauchenka.5382

1 Grenade Kit
2 Its viable. DMG is higher then Reaper.
3 No, just find asc viper set.
4 No, even in raids. Rebind ur skills and use simple rotation.

Go to lvl engi in pvp, next season get viper armor + wings. L2P!
Go to WvW, eotm run for full zerker set, buy scholar runes.
Come back to PVE and turm on god mode

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Posted by: Caeledh.5437

Caeledh.5437

However I can’t seem to get past level 10 with him…

Have you tried logging in?

1.- Which is the best kit to level him up? I find I take a long time to kill anythig with any weapon…

They’re all viable but the bomb kit has a bit more bite because of its very short range and small delay on damage (which you can trait to be shorter eventually).

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Posted by: bulauchenka.5382

bulauchenka.5382

Caeledh.5437:“They’re all viable…” orly?
Elixir gun / med kit / Tool kit for PVE lvling? U made my day))))

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Posted by: leviathan.2148

leviathan.2148

Caeledh.5437:“They’re all viable…” orly?
Elixir gun / med kit / Tool kit for PVE lvling? U made my day))))

Why not? Everything is stupidly easy so you wouldn’t even need to equip utilities and you’d be able to progress

I am an engineer – a pianist of destruction! Now please go back to standing in my AOE.

http://wpwhendead.tumblr.com - a GW2 webcomic about a Charr and a Skritt

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Posted by: bulauchenka.5382

bulauchenka.5382

but it is not the best dps kits)))

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Posted by: leviathan.2148

leviathan.2148

but it is not the best dps kits)))

I know but in open world pve it really doesn’t matter much.

I am an engineer – a pianist of destruction! Now please go back to standing in my AOE.

http://wpwhendead.tumblr.com - a GW2 webcomic about a Charr and a Skritt

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Posted by: Daedraz.1650

Daedraz.1650

Ok guys, trying to get into the Engi, as I’ve read he’s got one of the few and still reliable Power rotations for Fractals, and they say it’s a very fun and damaging class!

However I can’t seem to get past level 10 with him… Here are my questions.

1.- Which is the best kit to level him up? I find I take a long time to kill anythig with any weapon…

2.- How viable is Scrapper for “casual” PVE, like low level fractals and open world? Is the damage higher or lower than power Reaper?

3.- Is it worth to invest in Rampager gear while I grind to get the condition gear?

4.- Outside of Raids, is it needed to have a “pianist” rotation to be good?

Most of my questions surround zerk Engi/Scrapper btw.

Thanks!

1: Grenade or bomb kit should do the job well. They are integral kits for both power and condi builds, so it is probably a good idea to familiarize yourself with them while you are leveling.

2: Scrapper can get the job done in casual pve. Honestly, it doesn’t really have superb damage, but it does enough to get the job done without having you break a sweat. Although I haven’t done/seen any benchmarks from the hardcore pve community, I think there is a general understanding that scrapper does less dps than a condi reaper. Scrapper is sort of designed to perform better at pvp than pve, since it has good bunkering capabilities, CC, sustain, and gyros (although gyros have been getting nerfed to oblivion lately). IMO condi reaper also has a better edge when it comes to open world because of epidemic (despite the recent changes, it is still powerful as heck in open world).

3: IMO it would be better to get sinister gear instead of rampager. You’ll get much better mileage out of sinister compared to rampager. The problem however, is that sinister armor and weapons are obtainable through crafting only, much like viper gear. If you already have 400 crafting, then sinister should be really cheap to craft now since they have fallen out of the meta. I think it will be a worthwhile endeavor to roll sinister gear while you work towards viper. If your end game goal is to do condi engi at end game content such as raids and t4 fractals, you’ll need some time to master what I believe is the most complex and frustrating rotation in the entire game. A lot of condi engi rotation boils down to playing it long enough to the point where you just develop an internal clock since you will be juggling 4 kits and you can’t see which skills from which kits are about to go off cooldown.

4: That is a sort of yes and no answer. Power engi builds don’t need that at all. Power engi is more of a ‘spam 1 skill till the end of time’ sort of build. That is not the case for a condi engi. To achieve the max possible dps, a pianist rotation will be necessary. None of condi engi’s skills are particularly bursty in terms of condi dmg. A condi engi’s dps comes from spamming a ton of skills, that individually do little condi dmg, in rapid succession so you end up stacking a lot of conditions. This requires really good manual dexterity as you have to move through your kits/rotation really quickly to ramp up/maintain the stacks of bleeds, burns, and poison. The ‘pianist’ way is unfortunately the only good way to play a condi engi. Otherwise, you’ll be doing more dps on a power engi. Condi engie is a sort of a weird one, in that either you got the rotation down and do terrific damage that melts down mobs, or you don’t have the rotation down and you struggle to do decent damage even in open world standards. Good news is, there are much less complicated condi engi rotations that you can find on youtube. Some of these rotations allow you to get really close to the benchmark dps of 35K without having to give yourself carpal tunnel and aneurysms every time.

(edited by Daedraz.1650)

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Caeledh.5437:“They’re all viable…” orly?
Elixir gun / med kit / Tool kit for PVE lvling? U made my day))))

IIRC you get access to med kit early and using it as your swiftness option is worthwhile until streamlined kits.

EG is great for condi cleanse as well as providing a stunbreak and quality damage with acid bomb (and a blast). So it’s not shabby at all though probably not something I’d use as a primary kit.

Toolkit, like EG something I liked to have on my bar using Magnet to pull an enemy into my cleave/blind fields, decent damage with pry bar and the block to avoid getting in combat while skipping areas. Also the superspeed trigger with streamlined kits has gotten me out of more than a few tight spots.

So yes they each have their points even if it’s very fringe like med kit.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Ok guys, trying to get into the Engi, as I’ve read he’s got one of the few and still reliable Power rotations for Fractals, and they say it’s a very fun and damaging class!

However I can’t seem to get past level 10 with him… Here are my questions.

1.- Which is the best kit to level him up? I find I take a long time to kill anythig with any weapon…

2.- How viable is Scrapper for “casual” PVE, like low level fractals and open world? Is the damage higher or lower than power Reaper?

3.- Is it worth to invest in Rampager gear while I grind to get the condition gear?

4.- Outside of Raids, is it needed to have a “pianist” rotation to be good?

Most of my questions surround zerk Engi/Scrapper btw.

Thanks!

1) Bomb kit IMO, the blind fields are great. The last Engi I leveled I did it all by killing things with xp boosters, just gathering a swarm of high XP enemies rotating blind fields and dpsing with a condi build. You can also pair with blast options to keep decent might through firebomb’s field. Then there’s always the easy mode bomb kiting where you just run in circles and the bombs explode on the enemies in chase.

2)Very viable for casual PVE, scrapper is basically a tankier alternative to our core options giving a huge increase in quality of life/ease of play having free stability and such.

3)Invest, naw but take it as it comes, sure. I’d say go Rabid as the early game alternative for condi builds. It’s a cheaper craft as it comes from salvaging and doesn’t have that new ridiculous leather cost involved. Either option will work until you can shift to the obviously superior Vipers stats.

4) no, check out Xyonon’s Plebineer build, doesn’t get much simpler than that for a DPS rotation outside of power Engi’s bomb build (which isn’t all that great in casual PVE just fyi). Having some combinations down is huge though and knowing when to swap to a kit for a specific skill. Blind field rotations is usually what I start with when a friend asks me for help with their Engi, rotating smoke bomb, flash shell, and then the various single hit blinds. Learning to might stacking rotations or get the timing to blast water fields multiple times is important. Overall the piano play is only for maximizing damage but there are plenty of alternatives that are acceptable. There’s even a simplified max kit rotation that’s less than 10% less damage but is simply facerolling down the kits in order.

Overall outside raids it’s more about knowing when/where to use certain skills and tools rather than doing the piano concerto.

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Posted by: Aldath.1275

Aldath.1275

I ended up leveling a Power Reaper first, my eyes are set on Engineer next time.
Something that makes me stop is that even with bombs I feel I’m not doign enough damage to thing, even less than on my Necro (perhaps, because I used minions).

How is Power Engi damage later on?