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Quit crying?
dude do keep in mind a great number of the complaints are about PvE NOT PvP :P
Gyros inability to follow you is not thanks to their slow movement speed, it’s that they are not responsive to changes in your movement and the fact that a tiny bump in the ground stops them (so much for flight).
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Gyros not following you? give them swiftness via ham5 and blast finishers. voila, problem solved!
The problem with gyros is not their speed, but their function and pathing.
Any kind of uneven terrain makes them go crazy. Any stair or ledge where you have to jump, stops them from following you completely.
Also the healing gyro stops to cast its heal, so if you are moving at all, you will always be oustide of the 240 radius when it finishes. No amount of speed solves these problems.
Function gyro not to your tastes? play something else. This is hands down the BEST elite skill for pvp when you trait for it.
Nobody was complaining about it’s function in sPvP but about the lack thereof in PvE and large scale WvW fights.
In PvE there are 2 situations where you might use it for ressing:
1. large scale open world events where you face big issues with targeting downed players
2. dungeons where downed teammates are usually right next to you, so no profit from gyro.
There are no targets do be stomped in PvE.
In large scale WvW fights the gyro just instantly dies
you can instantly stomp someone from range and there isnt jack they can do to stop you.
They can just kill it, it has a low hp and its stomp takes longer than a player’s.
Or cc it if you don’t trait stabilization core.
you can target teammates in the party window (spvp/dungeons =/) in order to res them from a range. added bonus: you can even stealth gyro AND res them yourself to get anyone up almost instantly. It’s the best skill in the game for ressing, bar none. stealth gyro is even instant kitten so you can stop someone stomping a teammate perfectly every time.
They nerfed AA and HGH because they were just too good. This was entirely fair and has almost no impact on how awesome scrapper is.
Super speed not stacking. because it’s fun to play against someone with 1k/s regen, all the time, with minimal healing power investment.
Valid things to moan about:
Total lack of condi damage/skills/traits with the scrapper line and hammer.
Now this I don’t get. Scrapper is a tanky spec line, why should it have condition damage?
Blast and shredder gyro being trash in every game mode. Blast is only good if you’re running final salvo and using it in wvw, otherwise it has serious pathing issues. shredder has potential with almost every combo field, but it has no staying power/stability so it’s useless.
Main reason shredder is useless is because whirl fnishers are useless.
Perfectly weighted should be 5s of 2 stability on dodge without an ICD. that way you can run it with mass momentum and not be forced into firearms for juggernaut.
Now that would be blatantly unbalanced, because with hammer 3, adrenal implants/vigor, energy sigil and elixir R you can keep evading for ever. Long lasting stability > 1 stack is something reserved for elite skills.
we have a melee bruiser and all i see is ‘wah, i can’t make it work’ ugh.
Most of the ‘wah’ is because we lack the “feel” of a elite mechanic. Function gyro is nowhere near what e.g. druid or necro got.
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Most of the ‘wah’ is because we lack the “feel” of a elite mechanic. Function gyro is nowhere near what e.g. druid or necro got.
Play some PvP matches and you will feel it
Lol @OP.
Skills should not require 2-3 other skills to make it work to begin with. Blasting stuff just to make gyros follow? Nope. They should work by themselves.
You don’t make skills that are useless without other skills because that’s counterintuitive. You don’t need 2-3 other skills for Elixir B to work or Healing Turret to work.
Function Gyro is simply boring and lazy. It does not change the gameplay of the class, is annoying to use and weak more often than not. How does that measure up against other classes’ elite mechanics?
Function gyro not to your tastes? play something else. This is hands down the BEST elite skill for pvp when you trait for it. you can instantly stomp someone from range and there isnt jack they can do to stop you. you can target teammates in the party window (spvp/dungeons =/) in order to res them from a range. added bonus: you can even stealth gyro AND res them yourself to get anyone up almost instantly. It’s the best skill in the game for ressing, bar none. stealth gyro is even instant kitten so you can stop someone stomping a teammate perfectly every time.
Function Gyro is good in PvP, but it has limited use in PvE, especially when not in a zerg. I wish there were more to it, like you could send it out to harvest things for you.
Play some PvP matches and you will feel it
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Anyways, I like my scrapper well enough, but do wish that they made the Gyros that are meant to follow you into “hard locked” items, 1:1 affixed to your character’s anchor point and impossible to shake. They had to no that no AI solution would ever be viable. I mean, come on,. . .Rangers.
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Anyone wish there was some way to tell your function gyro was out there reviving? I honestly can never see it, sometimes i think its reviving but its not. Wish we had a buff or maybe another toolbelt skill slot thing that showed us.
Also, it seems the gyro has problems reviving/downing if the teammate/enemy gets pushed. The gyro goes full special mode and doesn’t know what to do.
Anyone wish there was some way to tell your function gyro was out there reviving? I honestly can never see it, sometimes i think its reviving but its not. Wish we had a buff or maybe another toolbelt skill slot thing that showed us.
Also, it seems the gyro has problems reviving/downing if the teammate/enemy gets pushed. The gyro goes full special mode and doesn’t know what to do.
It’s an issue just because it’s almost impossible to see if you have the gyro by your shoulder in the middle of combat. Cooldown bar and icon over the toolbelt, maybe? Gyro’s out reviving, the gyro’s icon turns blue and it has the downed ally minimap symbol over it. If it’s out stomping, the icon turns red and has the downed enemy minimap symbol.
I agree that Scrapper has a good side. Till now I am loving it, I also agree that it can be improved a lot.