Guild Wars 2

The Toolbelt skills have a few quirks to them.

First! Does anyone else think that Norn Engineers get the short end of the stick in terms of Racial Toolbelt skills? They aren’t very innovative, they just eat an egg (Owl or Wurm). And they both do very similar things. They don’t even get a cool animation.

They could have given Call Owl’s Toolbelt skill that gives a unique buff that causes the next attack to critically hit and Call Wurm should give Norn Engineers a burrow skill that makes them burrow disappear underground and become immune to damage for 2 seconds.

Now for Humans does anyone else think that Blessing of Lyssa is more powerful then the base skill Prayer to Lyssa? It does the same thing but is an AoE. It would be much cooler and equal in terms of power if it gave Stealth to the Engineer for 3 seconds instead.

Just wanted to try a discussion if anyone else cares to complain or discuss these skills or other Racial skills.

Well considering racial skills are supposed to be slightly weaker as to not tip the scales to favor a certain race over another, I’ll say its okay to keep their toolbelt counterparts on the weaker end. If norns had a racial toolbelt to make them immune to damage for an extra two seconds I would start considering remaking my engineer. And a guaranteed critical hit? That seals the deal goodbye charr hello norn

Charr Engineers could say something about toolbelt skills being useless :p

Penguin.5197:

If norns had a racial toolbelt to make them immune to damage for an extra two seconds I would start considering remaking my engineer.

Jokes on you man, one of the cabbage elf racial toolbelt skills is a 2s block.

For me the biggest issue with racial skills is that they use up a regular skill slot.
So if they are intended to not be too strong, to keep balance between races, they all end up too weak to replace any normal tool belt skill.

They shouldn’t be compared to one another only, they are forced to be compared to ALL toolbelt skills!

This is what makes them too weak and mostly useless for me.

They would be worth a seperate racial slot, but none of them are worth a normal slot I fear.

As an engineer I am already overwhelmed by choices between elixirs, kits, gadgets… the racials are just back of that line, not worth considering in almost any build.

I wish they were worth it, they add spice and individuality to your character

The Asura ones aren’t too bad. Technobabble and Radiation Field seem good to me… who doesn’t want a 1200 range poison cloud and PBAoE poison or PBAoE Confusion and 2s of Daze? But I can’t say I actually use them.

On my shout Guardian, before buffs and heals were nerfed to 5 allies only, I used to occasionally take the Charr shout buff, since my Guardian’s buffs lasted for so long.

“I’ll say its okay to keep their toolbelt counterparts on the weaker end. If norns had a racial toolbelt to make them immune to damage for an extra two seconds I would start considering remaking my engineer. And a guaranteed critical hit?”

“Jokes on you man, one of the cabbage elf racial toolbelt skills is a 2s block.”

I was going to say how is burrowing underground and taking no damage for 2 seconds any different then the Sylvari Racial Toolbelt skill that gives 2 seconds of Blocking. Also I don’t think giving Norn Engineers a free Sigil of Intelligence proc every 45 seconds is OPed.

“Charr Engineers could say something about toolbelt skills being useless :p”

I think the Charr has one of the best plus all of their Toolbelt skills fit themeatically. Invigorating Roar removes Weakness and Vulnerability along with giving Vigor for 10 seconds on a 50 second cooldown which can be lowered via Traits. Plus who doesn’t want a Dual Pistol unlock skill! Looks cool and is built from the best Racial skill of all!

Asura and Sylvari have it good but Humans have it the best overall with an AoE Condition removal. Combine Prayer to Kormir, Blessing of Kormir and 409 and conditions will be so easy to keep off.

I really like Radiation field/vent radiation for Asura. 15s of guaranteed weakness is pretty solid, and 25s of poison (TB + field) is nice.

Attic.1562:

Penguin.5197:

If norns had a racial toolbelt to make them immune to damage for an extra two seconds I would start considering remaking my engineer.

Jokes on you man, one of the cabbage elf racial toolbelt skills is a 2s block.

Get me a guaranteed crit hit skill too and ill switch right away!

i am QQing at Norn toolbelt… only two skill to three on ever other race… this is madness ! i mean its racist !

Norngineers definitely got the short end of the stick here, it sure seems like.

For humans, I do like Prayer to Lyssa’s toolbelt – similar to a boon giving elixir toss. But it does take a valuable skill slot, which is hard to justify when a skill type that can be modified and much more potentially useful can be used. Sadly a number of human racial are also elites that obviously don’t have a corresponding toolbelt skill.

Charr engineers have some useful racials definitely. Invigorating roar with a build that uses invigorating speed, especially with + boon duration, allows you to stack perma vigor quite comfortably, along with the swiftness, fury, might you can already make permanent.

Hidden pistols scales well with power: my zerk built engi easily hits 4-5k full casts, on the lower end of the scale. And of course, the main skill is a okayish 15 sec evade.

Sylvari engineers do make me a little jealous sometimes though, because I do so enjoy confusing people with the sheer amount of blocks, evades and invuln I can pull off… I would love two more seconds of block.

I’m assuming asura technobabble toolbelt would be huge for confusion/perplexity builds in WvW.

Not that huge…u lose a kit.

What kit is better than a utility that dazes for 3s and has a 3x confusion dishing toolbelt?

Serious question, not sarcasm. I’ve never run a perplexity build.