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Posted by: thomson.6405

thomson.6405

Hi so I left the game at the start of the year as I was unhappy with the class I wanted to play underperforming, I have no interest in pvp or wvw atm I just want to gear and at the same time I don’t want to waste my time so I have some questions.
1. Is engineer still low damage in pve?
2. Is Warrior still best pve damage class?
3. Is it still nade spam till your fingers bleed?
4. what have they nerfed?
5. what have they buffed?
6. Zerker v Conditions build.
I’m not looking to be op just competitive and wanted in parties.

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Posted by: Penguin.5197

Penguin.5197

Im assuming you havent played since January.

1. We have always had builds with good damage for pve
2. Yes
3. Nades will probably never get target lock
4. Elixir u. elixir s, always prepared (LOL)
5. Rocket boots, leg mods, sitting duck, acidic elixirs, surprise shot, jump shot
6. For pver Ill still say zerker

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Posted by: Forestnator.6298

Forestnator.6298

After question 1) :

Waste of time to explain anything… if engineer was bad for u at start, then he is still bad.
Grenades were the highest damage source in the game before the nerf october/november. But They fixed this early so casuals never saw it.

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Posted by: Sylentir.8913

Sylentir.8913

Penguin is right 1-3. More has been nerfed and more has been buffed, but it’s too much to want to recount here. And once again, right on 6, but that’s because of game mechanics (not engineer ones).

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Posted by: ShadowPuppet.3746

ShadowPuppet.3746

Meh, I don’t agree with warrior being “best” pve damage wise, easiest yes but best is debatable. Unfortunately, players have a bias against certain classes, hell it wasn’t until recently that some of the “elite” dungeon groups would even consider bringing a ranger along. The problem is people see the damage they get from 100b and greatly overestimate how much actual dps it breaks down to. This results in them making proclamations that warrior is “best”. Here is the deal, play what you like to play if it happens to be engie just be prepared to work harder to get similar results, if you are ok with that then welcome aboard. If you want faceroll, then go play the warrior or guardian, but capability wise engi is every bit as capable in putting out fantastic damage compared to any other class in the game, well maybe except a fgs ele that has a mob pushed into a wall, but nothing compares to that and I mean nothing lol.

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Posted by: MonMalthias.4763

MonMalthias.4763

@ShadowPuppet:
The only thing comparable to FGS exploitation Ele is 100% glass Lightning Hammer Ele

6k autos, 10k crits at end of chain.

As for Warriors being best in dungeon, it is now well known and accepted that Axe beats out GS for sustained DPS, even if the numbers aren’t as impressive. But DPS isn’t the reason why Warriors are still highly sought after in Dungeons – it’s that they bring strong DPS with good survivability (from base HP and toughness) with great party DPS support.

On My Mark and For Great Justice grant party wide Might and Fury and gives Vulnerability to foes. You can bet that if those Shouts were ever nerfed, Warrior will fall off the face of the earth in Dungeons to be replaced by LH ele, or whichever class offers the “next best” party wide DPS amplification and big damage.

AOE Boons are so strong in fact that the only class that pukes them every second – Guardians – are 100% sought after in both PvP and PvE. Does this mean that Boons are balanced, or that Guardians are OP? Who knows.

All I know is that if AOE Boons from class utilities were nerfed and instead were shifted 100% to Combo Fields and Finishers, it would be Engineer that would become the next Apex class. Who knows? Such a meta might even encourage team co-ordination and team play.

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Posted by: ShadowPuppet.3746

ShadowPuppet.3746

@ShadowPuppet:
The only thing comparable to FGS exploitation Ele is 100% glass Lightning Hammer Ele

6k autos, 10k crits at end of chain.

As for Warriors being best in dungeon, it is now well known and accepted that Axe beats out GS for sustained DPS, even if the numbers aren’t as impressive. But DPS isn’t the reason why Warriors are still highly sought after in Dungeons – it’s that they bring strong DPS with good survivability (from base HP and toughness) with great party DPS support.

On My Mark and For Great Justice grant party wide Might and Fury and gives Vulnerability to foes. You can bet that if those Shouts were ever nerfed, Warrior will fall off the face of the earth in Dungeons to be replaced by LH ele, or whichever class offers the “next best” party wide DPS amplification and big damage.

AOE Boons are so strong in fact that the only class that pukes them every second – Guardians – are 100% sought after in both PvP and PvE. Does this mean that Boons are balanced, or that Guardians are OP? Who knows.

All I know is that if AOE Boons from class utilities were nerfed and instead were shifted 100% to Combo Fields and Finishers, it would be Engineer that would become the next Apex class. Who knows? Such a meta might even encourage team co-ordination and team play.

That was my point about warrior being easier to play, I should have said it’s easier to fit into a pug scenario, but rarely is it really warranted to take more than one if you have a organized group. Banner of discipline is pretty much irreplaceable, but it doesn’t stack and there are other alternatives to getting might and fury for the group besides using fgj. I wasn’t saying that you would use a engineer as a replacement for a warrior, but instead of a second warrior absolutely. We typically run 1 guard, 1 war, 1 ranger (spotter/frost spirit stacks with banner), 1 engi (that’s me!) and then rotate the last spot depending on if we need more reflects we take a mesmer otherwise it’s usually a ele and have literally zero issues with maintaining the 25 might 25 vuln and fury for the group. Will we set an absolute speedclear record? Probably not but are our runs fast safe and easy, yep you bet. What I was getting at was that most people really don’t play engineer to it’s full potential and are quick to dismiss it as not being a valid dps class without realizing that it can do as much damage per second as any other class it’s just gone about in a different manner. Take acid bomb for example with 25 might and vuln on the target it will hit around 25k over the 5 seconds it’s out for, not overly impressive until you realize that you can be doing other damage simultaneously while that is ticking, the engineer layers it’s damage much more than many other classes do and the rotations to keep up a gk,bk,eg setup are admittedly more complex and require a much higher apm to get good results.