Guild Wars 2

It seems that witheout the developers notice perma vigor sneaked in the enginer builds yet again. Worse its now turret mendatory xD

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqalUUpyq1Vx2KseNCdBF6VUwXI6F2wR/pAA-TJxBwAEOBAW3fAwDAwbZAA

for some bloody hilarous reason you can permanantly have 10 full second of permanant vigor from the net turret synergy with vigor on swiftness. In theory every 10 darn seconds you gain 11 seconds of vigor overstacking duration by one second per interval

old, over complicated, done more easily.
just take invigorating speed and infused precision.
BAM perma swiftness/ perma vigor

well i guess it depends i dont see many people who runs firearms willing to waste point in alchemy unless running FT in wich case yea you prety much good for perma vigor anyway

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fdQQFAUlUUpErlcxdLseRCbBNqxAyNUCRllPfgAkUA-T1xCABRp8jOdAA8AAu4CA4p6PLv/QiKBJFAErBA-w

The alchemy line just serve so little purpose VS what firearm and explosive do if not tools. Unless you specificaly running the flamethrower its prety much a huge downgrade altrought when you look at the build from that point of view it totaly make senses

kyubi.3620:

well i guess it depends i dont see many people who runs firearms willing to waste point in alchemy unless running FT in wich case yea you prety much good for perma vigor anyway

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fdQQFAUlUUpErlcxdLseRCbBNqxAyNUCRllPfgAkUA-T1xCABRp8jOdAA8AAu4CA4p6PLv/QiKBJFAErBA-w

The alchemy line just serve so little purpose VS what firearm and explosive do if not tools. Unless you specificaly running the flamethrower its prety much a huge downgrade altrought when you look at the build from that point of view it totaly make senses

I think you’ve got it the wrong way around. If your Engineer build doesn’t have at least 20 points in Alchemy, it’s probably not worth running.

In any case, all you need is Infused Precision + Invigorating Speed and you’ve pretty much got perma Vigor.

you run alchemy in a bomb build? I dont recall not having at least 30/30 not behing mendatory to run explosives o.o (modified ammunition is mendatory as far as i know and i like to have access to the insane vuln stacking) but i guess if you actualy put the 10 last point into alch for the vigor instead of tool for 10% crit damage your in for easyer dodging.

Well again you can decide to sacrifice MA and increased damage on bleed for prot injection and transmute but isnt that bunkering?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpPrdZxELseNSbBB6Iei2KqM+5FEgGC-TJBEABJ8AAwuMAAXAgY2fAA

Sorry, I’m assuming you’re talking about a PvP context (given that you talked about a Turret build in the OP). If so, then i stand by what I said (especially in a Bomb build).

Otherwise, sure 30/30 all the way for PvE but then why do you even care about Vigor?

Edit: The 20 points in Alchemy gives you Invigorating Speed/Protection Injection/Self Regulating Defenses and Backpack Regenerator in normal builds (or Fast Acting Elixirs & Cleansing Formula 409 in a HGH build). This doesn’t make it bunkery…just adds a chunk load of survivability.

I try to avoid bunkering in pvp when possible but again i guess sometime you need to sacrifice some dps not to be over glassy