Guild Wars 2

Greetings and Salutations my dear engineers! Are you ready to partake in some unsavory gambling?

We have some excellent and viable choices for you to pick tonight, my lucky friends.

Up to you to pick wisely or to drink an Elixir and leave it up to the RNG.

The nature of the game tonight is…..

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WHAT BUILD WILL ARENANET NERF?!

And your options are!

1. The Sturdy Medicat Build!

2. The Bursty Static Discharge Build!

3. The In Your Face 100Nade Build!

Place your bets ladies and gentlemen!

If one of those kit will get nerfed, I predict 100nade.

SD build didn’t really made is way to competitive tPvP, and don’t work with more then half the utilies we have.

Medicat is also less useful in sPvP as confusion is nerfed compared to PvE. Also, guardian and DD Elem are a lot better to bunker.

100 nade is used in competitive tPvP, can one shot other GC, do it with AoE damage ( and we all know what Anet think about AoE), and have 2 other utility to spare.

Brace Yourself!

My vote goes for the 100nades . They made condition builds useless ( very weak in comparison to other classes), so it’s the only one left in competitive pvp. And we all know they are planning to remove that class completely from pvp, so 100nades is the only build that stands in their way.

Voting 10$, granade damage will get at least 20% down in the patch notes.

I’m going with TANKCAT invulnerability length of time nerf and 100Nade build nerf.

I’ll put my rifle up for my ante since attempting to use it for anything other than CC is somewhat pointless.

FiftyTwoBears.5482:

Greetings and Salutations my dear engineers! Are you ready to partake in some unsavory gambling?

We have some excellent and viable choices for you to pick tonight, my lucky friends.

Up to you to pick wisely or to drink an Elixir and leave it up to the RNG.

The nature of the game tonight is…..

drumroll

WHAT BUILD WILL ARENANET NERF?!

And your options are!

1. The Sturdy Medicat Build!

2. The Bursty Static Discharge Build!

3. The In Your Face 100Nade Build!

Place your bets ladies and gentlemen!

That’s quite a pessimistic outlook on things, haha. From my experience, there are no broken traits, exploits, or un-counterable mechanics that are gamebreaking to the point of guaranteeing a nerf.

But I do get the joke.. every ‘memorable’ or ‘niche’ build that seems strong in one area and not mediocre in all seems to get reduced.

While I’m happy that bug fixes have been made to Engineer (OP super elixir, lengthy list of adjustements) I like to be very vocal about giving engineers roles that are actually memorable and meaningful – not just mediocrity in every role. I’d like to challenge the design philosophy on that.

Only time will decide the fate of Engi’s everywhere. Haha.

I predict that all three get nerfed.
Actually I lied. I predict that engineers will be removed.

OP you need to get over your temper tantrum. You have done nothing but troll the forums complaining about something that you have no idea if it will happen.

It is getting old, and posters looking to have earnest conversations are being forced to wade through the waste of threads such as this.

If you have a problem with what you think will happen go troll your psychic friends line and stop trolling the forums.

all of these above will get nerfed by 33%

Our current skills on heal runes look really tempting I bet. The whole AoE might/regen/swiftness which activate on med-kit will probably be nerfed eventually, don’t know if it will be on monday though.

Does that count as a tank-cat nerf?

coglin.1496:

OP you need to get over your temper tantrum. You have done nothing but troll the forums complaining about something that you have no idea if it will happen.

It is getting old, and posters looking to have earnest conversations are being forced to wade through the waste of threads such as this.

If you have a problem with what you think will happen go troll your psychic friends line and stop trolling the forums.

I’m just havin my fun when I’m bored leveling my Guardian now. It’s not so much as a temper tantrum as much as it is more of a commentary. And if you’ve noticed, I do make it pretty obvious I have no idea what’s going to happen.

And hey, my last two posts had a decent sized response of fun and joy. YOU sir are being the Mr. Grumpy Pants. Learn to take a joke.

And hey, I’m actually hoping for more nerfs (no troll or joke intended at all, honest injun). I’m starting to sorta enjoy being the underdog here, it’s kinda fun and excellent watching all the brilliant Engineers here figure out ways around the issues we have, and I find it amazing that we’re still pushing this class to the limits.

Imagine the possibilities once we get all our much needed fixes and possible buffs.

But hey, if you have a problem with my “trolling” then just ignore me. Freedom of speech and all that jazz Mister Poopy Doo.

And Im quite sure somewhere at ArenaNet somebody is ready to kill me if they ever had the chance.

100nades is one of the hardest builds in the game to play correctly, only know 2 engineers that can play it well… And one is the creator of the build haha. I don’t think SD is too much of a problem either because it’s really not that OP. I honestly feel we’re going to actually get a buff this time!

~Vöz

What are the odds on the trifecta?

We get weapon stats active while holding a bundle and all kits of course get “toned down a bit”™.
Weird science (why change this in the first place?), but there you go.

FiftyTwoBears.5482:

Greetings and Salutations my dear engineers! Are you ready to partake in some unsavory gambling?

We have some excellent and viable choices for you to pick tonight, my lucky friends.

Up to you to pick wisely or to drink an Elixir and leave it up to the RNG.

The nature of the game tonight is…..

drumroll

WHAT BUILD WILL ARENANET NERF?!

And your options are!

1. The Sturdy Medicat Build!

2. The Bursty Static Discharge Build!

3. The In Your Face 100Nade Build!

Place your bets ladies and gentlemen!

I suspect the 100Nade will get nerfed. Using an AoE for Single Target damage, is exactly the situation they’ve been talking about nerfing.

Marvingy.6327:

FiftyTwoBears.5482:

Greetings and Salutations my dear engineers! Are you ready to partake in some unsavory gambling?

We have some excellent and viable choices for you to pick tonight, my lucky friends.

Up to you to pick wisely or to drink an Elixir and leave it up to the RNG.

The nature of the game tonight is…..

drumroll

WHAT BUILD WILL ARENANET NERF?!

And your options are!

1. The Sturdy Medicat Build!

2. The Bursty Static Discharge Build!

3. The In Your Face 100Nade Build!

Place your bets ladies and gentlemen!

I suspect the 100Nade will get nerfed. Using an AoE for Single Target damage, is exactly the situation they’ve been talking about nerfing.

“AOE” Radius, 120.

Hundred-blades or Axe 1 is as much an aoe used for single target damage as grenade barrage is. Used at melee range I think it’s not out of line.

Start throwing grenade barrage the same way you throw ranged AoE! I think you’ll have a different tune about balancing it.

MikeT.9428:

I’m going with TANKCAT invulnerability length of time nerf and 100Nade build nerf.

Seconded. Both gear sheild and static shield will only work when standing still, and gear shield duration will be shortened by a second.

For 100n, they will mess with Kit Refinement, either the damage or spread the grenade barrage out and make the grenades explode on ground impact, not enemy player impact so they only get hit by a few.

I honestly don’t think there will be many balance changes at all this patch, but I’m popping in to say threads like this are actually good for the engineer community overall. Over the last few weeks, as the popularity of “joke” threads like “Famous Quotes” and “Only an Engineer” grew, the number of blatantly dev-flaming, shameless qq-ing, “Anet hates us” posts actually decreased.

People vented their frustration by making jokes instead of writing hate mail. I fail to see the problem with that.

I’d bet 10s Kit Refinement + Static Discharge will be targeted. KR will simply trigger the kit’s spam-able ability while SD will receive a hefty cool down.
Both traits allow us to wily break out of the bracket ANet set for this class. Thrice the keystrokes for 2/3 the impact.

Kit Refinement on the Grenade Kit will likely drop to 3 Grenades or something, but hopefully the spread will be reduced significantly to compensate.

I’m betting KR nerf for EG by changing it to something other than SE.
Though I suppose a jumpless Acid Bomb wouldn’t be THAT bad.

Plok.5873:

Both traits allow us to wily break out of the bracket ANet set for this class. Thrice the keystrokes for 2/3 the impact.

Oh this bracket… Why not get rid of the notion, the GW2 community would need a Jester of Versatility bracket?
Just make it a real profession that can put out pressure (in many forms, not just the creative usage of game mechanics builds or bug/troll builds) like every other profession out there please.
Every time an unintended mechanic is discovered and we begin to feel like a ‘real’, pressure profession, we can see the potential of this profession, just to be denied of it after the following patch. Q_Q

I vote the 100nades build considering their giant disdain for explosions of any non-magical design.

Even the healing is nerfed and doesn’t really grant the benefits of the +healing scores, might as well keep on your dps gear honestly, and static discharge really doesn’t work well with the elixirs or other AOE type effects on the toolbelt, so I’m thinking they’ll choose the one that works the best right now. It’s been my experience with their testing team so far, choose the thing that works best, nerf it or break it entirely, move on to the next kit.

I’m going with tankcat.

It has the most views.

You should add a [4. Buffed, so not a nerf] for the more hopeful engineers out there. But get ready to have your dreams crushed to. Im betting SD is getting it(will get a CD?), so 1g to the first fellow engineer to call me out if Im wrong next patch. Im just not seeing how Tankcat could get nerfed, 100nades maybe gets it KR nerfed, turned into blind grenades XD

Here’s my prediction:
ANet will finally fix Rifled Turret Barrels, then promptly reduce the damage by 15% and range of all turrets to compensate.

Its funny how easy builds 2 and 3 can break, (based off of one trait or another). I fold, None of the above.

No nerf will be done next patch. They actually forgot that we exist. Though they’ll nerf us in Feb/March for forgetting to nerf us this January

We’l get nerfed and they’l give d/d eles and thieves the buffs they so desperately need. Anet logic. Why would they possibly want to make the least popular class more popular.

Desterion.6407:

We’l get nerfed and they’l give d/d eles and thieves the buffs they so desperately need. Anet logic. Why would they possibly want to make the least popular class more popular.

Never mind fact that I see tons of thief and d/d ele running around in the guild called “Anet” That is on a opposing server. Why would they nerf class they enjoy playing the most. Look at all mesmer/eng nerfs vs thief nerfs. Thief ones all were pvp only while mesmer/Eng were applied to both pve/WvW and pvp

100nades, accomapnied by the patch note text: “Fixed a bug that could cause engineers to become vaguely threatening.”

NevirSayDie.6235:

People vented their frustration by making jokes instead of writing hate mail. I fail to see the problem with that.

This. We joke around now because it’s become ‘common’, and ‘normal’ to expect the class to get dirt kicked on it.

Just the other day I was explaining to someone about the Engineer. “Wow. You guys have all that? I think those grenades are OP.”

I laughed. SO. HARD. Why? Because he plays a Thief EXCLUSIVELY.

More than anything I have learned to take things in stride with the Engineer. It’s easy to be pessimistic. But it’s fun to joke around and have a few laughs

All right, Ladies and Gentlemen, last day to place your bets!

COME ON! DON’T BE SHY!

Throw in the last of your gold or maybe bet that Flamethrower Kit you guys are so found of, maybe you’ll win big tomorrow!

The 100nades build!

I just farmed for that build! (Not the exact build per se, but a variant of it)

Definitely 100nades! I’ll just spend long hours farming again for another WvW build!

And I’ll probably only cry for 12 hours!

:(

Tankcat! No engineer should be able to take damage that can roll a zerker warrior!

it will be 100nades, they are planning to nerf aoe anyways.

I’m calling Flamethrowing Pie Junkie will be nerfed to next. I know it’s not on the list, but just watch…

I think the most important thing being overlooked is, we all have our own ideas and opinions of the topic at hand. The sad part is that one of those builds or at least something stated in this thread WILL be nerfed. That just gos without saying

It seems that we have accepted our fate of being miserable bugy profession. At least this time we know its coming, no rage threads will be required.

at the Anet offices …

Dev 1 – we are nerfing the engineer across the board greatly
Dev 2- why is that? they are one of the worst classes in the game
Dev 1- well i saw Dev 3 today just owning in with dual pistols in Cursed shore doing 1000s of damage per hit
Dev 2- thats strange because every data out there shows pistols can’t do that. Dev 3 get in here!
Dev 3 – sup?
Dev 2 – is it true you were doing 1000’s of damage with a pistol spec engineer
Dev 3 – yup!
Dev 2 – what spec were you in?
Dev 3- oh no dude its not because of my spec i had the dev cheat codes on.
Dev 2- see so no need to nerf the engineers Dev 1.
Dev 1- eh its already been added to the patch… so we will just figure it out later. later guys i gotta go play my Thief, hooray for culling issues!

Cosine.1786:

100nades, accomapnied by the patch note text: “Fixed a bug that could cause engineers to become vaguely threatening.”

This may be my new signature.

FiftyTwoBears.5482:

coglin.1496:

OP you need to get over your temper tantrum. You have done nothing but troll the forums complaining about something that you have no idea if it will happen.

It is getting old, and posters looking to have earnest conversations are being forced to wade through the waste of threads such as this.

If you have a problem with what you think will happen go troll your psychic friends line and stop trolling the forums.

I’m just havin my fun when I’m bored leveling my Guardian now. It’s not so much as a temper tantrum as much as it is more of a commentary. And if you’ve noticed, I do make it pretty obvious I have no idea what’s going to happen.

And hey, my last two posts had a decent sized response of fun and joy. YOU sir are being the Mr. Grumpy Pants. Learn to take a joke.

And hey, I’m actually hoping for more nerfs (no troll or joke intended at all, honest injun). I’m starting to sorta enjoy being the underdog here, it’s kinda fun and excellent watching all the brilliant Engineers here figure out ways around the issues we have, and I find it amazing that we’re still pushing this class to the limits.

Imagine the possibilities once we get all our much needed fixes and possible buffs.

But hey, if you have a problem with my “trolling” then just ignore me. Freedom of speech and all that jazz Mister Poopy Doo.

Wow, Coglin must be on vacation or something. You’re the first person who I’ve seen reply to him that he hasn’t tried to start a flame war with. (Or maybe he was just temp banned?)

FiftyTwoBears.5482:

And Im quite sure somewhere at ArenaNet somebody is ready to kill me if they ever had the chance.

You, me, every other sad engineer fanboy.

FiftyTwoBears.5482:

All right, Ladies and Gentlemen, last day to place your bets!

COME ON! DON’T BE SHY!

Throw in the last of your gold or maybe bet that Flamethrower Kit you guys are so found of, maybe you’ll win big tomorrow!

I’m going to go against the grain and say bombs. Anet has already said the want to nerf AoE. They’ve already nerfed grenades substantially and they will probably wait a while to see how that plays out. Resolving the flamethrower issues will certainly earn our OP butts another nerf, however, that issue is related to some of the pet pathing issues (targets on a different Z axis) so it will probably take a while to fix. So that really just leaves bombs and maybe the thumper turret but the thumper is so weak now it may as well not exist. So, bombs it is.

Next update: cloaking device, turrets are permastealthed….
Comments? Think of the fun we could have…if they posed a threat, put trolling is great too!

so finally, the bets go to the 100nades it seems, RIP my friend

Stop promoting builds. Stop posting videos and tutorials on how to make the best / most effective builds. Stop giving them names.

If people were forced to figure this all out for themselves instead I think we wouldn’t have as many nerfs because there wouldn’t be as many people crying foul about a particular build. It would be kind of hard to nerf “100nades” for example if it didn’t exist in the public’s eye!

It’s better that the enterprising players who are able to find the build through their own experimentation be rewarded for it, rather than everyone running cookie-cutter builds and ruining them for all.

I particularly blame guilds for this, with their silly expectations that players run certain builds.