Guild Wars 2

My fights with reapers in a 1v1 usually end badly, either with me dying or with me using my Sneak Gyro as a exit, which is most of the time.

I find all their condition damages very annoying. I use my healing turret to clear the first 2 conditions as they come, and my healing mist ability to clear another, but mid to late in the fight I get overwhelmed.

Any help at all is appreciated.

1. Don’t use a boon-spam build. It makes my day when I’m using my necro and I encounter an engineer using FT and juggernaut trait. The pulsing stability timing is almost the same as the Scepter AA, which will never go well for the engineer.

2. Choose your attack. The greatest weakness of Reaper is the same as Necro: focus fire. When you engage the reaper 1v1, you are playing to the advantage of the reaper.
If you have to wait 5 seconds for a respawning ally, wait. 1+1 > 2 when it comes to fighting reapers.

3. The second greatest weakness of Reaper is also the second greatest weakness of Necro: CC. Engineer has lots of CC options. Don’t spam them, space them out. Don’t think of yourself as doing it all. Engineer applies CC… your buddy applies the DPS. When I see lots of necro’s, I slot in Slick Shoes and Blast Gyro. Sometimes mortar.

Not the answer you want exactly, but necro is a hard counter for engi. The same is true for a condi mesmer vs engi fight.

You shouldn’t be fighting against them 1 on 1. Engi is a counter for more direct dps builds.

Engage close, get off dps skills (hammer 2, 3, aa1)

Switch EG hit with 3, 2, aa1. Drop light field on top of necro, acid bomb, then cancel leap. Hammer 3 should be off, or close to off CD, try to have all leap finishers within the light circle. This combo gives you 8s retaliation followed by 9s I think of light field. By now, you should have done enough dmg that necro pops corruption and reaper shroud. And this is where timing turns these into easy fights.

As soon as reaper pops, drop bulwark gyro, tag reaper with blast gyro. Blast gyro is the quiet hero these days. Close quarters it is a high dmg aoe knock back that people just aren’t looking to deflect. Plus side, if you miss the dart, gyro will hit closest enemy and prob hit target anyways. Amazing against reaper. High damage, puts their dps literally in the dirt, and you have solid 3’s to wreck their shroud, use blast gyro gratuitously as its cd is short. Final Salvo obviously. Makes the 3 gyro with eg build very viable. Use eg3 to stop druid heals, blast gyro can be used to take them down as well. Currently, only class that stands up consistently to scrapper is a well played torment mes.

Very, very carefully…

If the reaper is as good as the scrapper, he’s probably going to win no matter what. As above said, reapers hardcounter scrappers. Condi pistol/pistol might deal a ton of damage fast but as soon as you get condi transfered you kill yourself. Power hammer will just be kited for a while and then mowed down if melee/ds happens.

I have had some intense reaper fights lasting a good while on my hybrid gyro pistol/pistol build but in the end my thought is always that I was simply the better player. He could have won. I have seen reapers roflstomp me by barely even doing anything.

i use rune of lyssa and Elixir C. Most Reap and Necro don’t expect it

Sneak gyro. Can’t hit what you can’t see, and Necro/reapers don’t have any reveal.

Dawdler.8521:

Very, very carefully…

If the reaper is as good as the scrapper, he’s probably going to win no matter what. As above said, reapers hardcounter scrappers. Condi pistol/pistol might deal a ton of damage fast but as soon as you get condi transfered you kill yourself. Power hammer will just be kited for a while and then mowed down if melee/ds happens.

I have had some intense reaper fights lasting a good while on my hybrid gyro pistol/pistol build but in the end my thought is always that I was simply the better player. He could have won. I have seen reapers roflstomp me by barely even doing anything.

Reaper kite a power hammer scrapper? Lel, I pray I run into reapers that dumb.

I am telling you, burst their health down until they pop shroud. Proc bukwark, and blast gyro, stack retaliation and light aura, block and heal. Their shroud will be gone, you will be full health, and their normal health bar melts fast. Control heals with poison from EG. Ttying to run a condi build against a reaper in spvp is slow suicide.

basz.6129:

Dawdler.8521:

Very, very carefully…

If the reaper is as good as the scrapper, he’s probably going to win no matter what. As above said, reapers hardcounter scrappers. Condi pistol/pistol might deal a ton of damage fast but as soon as you get condi transfered you kill yourself. Power hammer will just be kited for a while and then mowed down if melee/ds happens.

I have had some intense reaper fights lasting a good while on my hybrid gyro pistol/pistol build but in the end my thought is always that I was simply the better player. He could have won. I have seen reapers roflstomp me by barely even doing anything.

Reaper kite a power hammer scrapper? Lel, I pray I run into reapers that dumb.

I am telling you, burst their health down until they pop shroud. Proc bukwark, and blast gyro, stack retaliation and light aura, block and heal. Their shroud will be gone, you will be full health, and their normal health bar melts fast. Control heals with poison from EG. Ttying to run a condi build against a reaper in spvp is slow suicide.

And I’m telling you that the better player on a reaper wont allow you do to that. They will dump their marks and have you down to 50% hp before you get close for your hammer burst. That’s often about the time when they dump every condition in the world on you followed by an hour of chill and a DS melee burst to face.

But hey look at the bright side, if you find it easy maybe you’re just that good. Or I’m just plain bad at it. I dont know.

Dawdler.8521:

basz.6129:

Dawdler.8521:

Very, very carefully…

If the reaper is as good as the scrapper, he’s probably going to win no matter what. As above said, reapers hardcounter scrappers. Condi pistol/pistol might deal a ton of damage fast but as soon as you get condi transfered you kill yourself. Power hammer will just be kited for a while and then mowed down if melee/ds happens.

I have had some intense reaper fights lasting a good while on my hybrid gyro pistol/pistol build but in the end my thought is always that I was simply the better player. He could have won. I have seen reapers roflstomp me by barely even doing anything.

Reaper kite a power hammer scrapper? Lel, I pray I run into reapers that dumb.

I am telling you, burst their health down until they pop shroud. Proc bukwark, and blast gyro, stack retaliation and light aura, block and heal. Their shroud will be gone, you will be full health, and their normal health bar melts fast. Control heals with poison from EG. Ttying to run a condi build against a reaper in spvp is slow suicide.

And I’m telling you that the better player on a reaper wont allow you do to that. They will dump their marks and have you down to 50% hp before you get close for your hammer burst. That’s often about the time when they dump every condition in the world on you followed by an hour of chill and a DS melee burst to face.

But hey look at the bright side, if you find it easy maybe you’re just that good. Or I’m just plain bad at it. I dont know.

I play both classes. He’s right. Sneak gyro is the trick to closing on them without getting covered in conditions. Final Salvo is brutal when they are out of shroud. Don’t forget to use your blocks against Executioner’s Scythe.

elixir c
bulwark bad
team support so last year

basz.6129:

Engage close, get off dps skills (hammer 2, 3, aa1)

Switch EG hit with 3, 2, aa1. Drop light field on top of necro, acid bomb, then cancel leap. Hammer 3 should be off, or close to off CD, try to have all leap finishers within the light circle. This combo gives you 8s retaliation followed by 9s I think of light field. By now, you should have done enough dmg that necro pops corruption and reaper shroud. And this is where timing turns these into easy fights.

As soon as reaper pops, drop bulwark gyro, tag reaper with blast gyro. Blast gyro is the quiet hero these days. Close quarters it is a high dmg aoe knock back that people just aren’t looking to deflect. Plus side, if you miss the dart, gyro will hit closest enemy and prob hit target anyways. Amazing against reaper. High damage, puts their dps literally in the dirt, and you have solid 3’s to wreck their shroud, use blast gyro gratuitously as its cd is short. Final Salvo obviously. Makes the 3 gyro with eg build very viable. Use eg3 to stop druid heals, blast gyro can be used to take them down as well. Currently, only class that stands up consistently to scrapper is a well played torment mes.

What Amulet and Runes do you use with this setup?

Thanks

Asleep is how I now counter reapers. Only dangerous in numbers or with proficient thief escort. I do it everyday in t5-6 of diamond, so no thanks to niche use elixir c.

Mesmer the real problem.

I use either paladin or marauder amulet + water or holebrak rune.

Insulting me doesn’t make my direct counter to reaper any less effective.

just l2combofield and egun to remove condis with alchemical tinctures. also important to dodge the important abilities such as reaper 5, ult etc.

I don’t have trouble against reaper.
I’m playing the meta build : http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Scrapper_-_Power_Hammer
I play Elixir C rather than slicky shoes when i have to combat a necro. I always play elixir X. You can moa the necro to get him out of the death shroud.
Most of the time, I don’t use CC at the beginning. I just hit him until he uses death shroud. I use condi removal if needed. Then, when he is under death shroud, i use moa, and then CC (Hammer 5 + 3, sometimes bulwarke explosion) and DPS. Then necro is dead.
I use paladin’s amulet, hoelbrak rune.

i use meta and i win quite often in 1 vs 1 with reaper. the idea for me is to try to win … if not… stealth and run away alive. Elixir 5 can be really usefull …. for example put it and then hammer 2 for condi clean or eg autoattack . I am not saying that kitten ar is a simple match up but with meta is possible, with condi builds and with ft builds for me , in 1 vs1 it is a suicide

Elixir/Gyro hybrid, about a 75% win rate vs condi Necros. Got me to legendary in the last league in PvP. CC’s are your best counter to them but like it was said, space them out. I fyou have elixir X, wait for reaper shroud BUT only if you have (on hammer) 5 and 3 up as well as blast gyro (for me anyway), Transform, hammer 5, toss gyro tag and use leap. Watch them panic with staff. I have a pvp vid where I was vs 2 necros and beat them both as I knew one was about to do something and I was able to interrupt and bursted them down. If you use sneak gyro instead and kite, and count to 20. Then burst. That makes them waste their life force and if you can CC chain, they wont get a chance to regenerate LF. This comes from a lot of experience with watching Condi reaper rotations and dying.

Bigpapasmurf.5623:

I have a pvp vid .

Can i watch the vid somewhere? and why count to 20?

How can power scrapper lose vs reaper? You can avoid using any condition apart from vulnerability to prevent a draw back. You have alot of cc and incredible sustain heal plus enough condi remove from elixir gun and alchemy trait line.