Turrets: why are them fooled by mesmers?

Turrets: why are them fooled by mesmers?

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Posted by: Manuhell.2759

Manuhell.2759

Quoting from the wiki:
Mesmers are masters of mirage. They weave mental magic that confounds, controls, or evokes emotion in their enemies. With a wave of the hand, they can shatter their own illusions to produce even greater special effects.
Turrets haven’t got a mind. Why should them be fooled by illusions, mental magic and such things?
It would make sense if they always aimed at the true mesmer, imho. I could even say they should ignore entirely the illusions on their path: after all, they don’t even exist for them.
Doing so would push mesmers to have to kill them – they don’t lack ranged attacks, after all, so it wouldn’t exactly be a problem even if we deploy them in strange places (especially since our turrets are quite frail anyway as now).

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Posted by: TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

Our turrets are fooled by everyone , they shoot at what exists and what don’t. Remember that.

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Posted by: miriforst.1290

miriforst.1290

Yeah, mesmers are the sole reason i never run turrets even for fun and variation. They are a hard counter just by being alive.

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Posted by: Terrahero.9358

Terrahero.9358

Turrets have the worst AI in the game. Not only are they not attacking what you are attacking, or what is directly attacking you. They will actively attack things you are not in combat with, ninjapulling even more enemies to you. Or attempt to attack enemies that are out of LOS.
all this before they will even consider, just maybe, to attack the same target as you. As soon as a situation arrises where a Turret can actively pick from more then 1 target, they become a random crapshoot.

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Posted by: Tolmos.8395

Tolmos.8395

The turrets just target whatever is closest to them, unless it’s a dragon. It doesn’t matter if that thing is a clone; it doesn’t matter if that thing is invulnerable; it doesn’t matter if that thing is blocked by another object between it and the turret; it doesn’t matter if that thing is an inanimate object, like a table, while you are getting your face bashed in by a herd of centaurs. As long as whatever it is closest to is not a Dragon, it will shoot and attempt to kill it.

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Posted by: Manuhell.2759

Manuhell.2759

Guess people are missing the point: i know that they simply hit whatever is near them, as things stands now. And their terrible AI is well known too.
What i’m saying is that since they are turrets, thus mechanical beings, there is a case where this doesn’t make sense logically; that is, illusions.
If devs wanted, there would be logical reasons to basically make turrets a sort of counter to mesmers’ illusions. Giving them reasons to go after turrets before killing the one who set them up – a thing they do directly, as now.

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Posted by: Halcyon.7352

Halcyon.7352

I was doing the task in Brisbane on my lowbie mesmer near where the Unholy Triad(?) spawns, using my illusions to set off mines for task, when a friend stopped me to ask something:

How on earth is your illusionary magic confounding a hunk of metal and explosives?

Don’t expect too much realism in a fantasy MMO.

Tarnished Coast Engineer and… general alt-o-holic.

For the toast!

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Posted by: Super Riceman.8702

Super Riceman.8702

There are skritt inside the turrets, thats why they are stupid

There is only one god and its name is nerf. There is only one thing we say to nerf, not today

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Posted by: Benji.9203

Benji.9203

Our turrets are fooled by everyone , they shoot at what exists and what don’t. Remember that.

….This thread made my morning.

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Posted by: Tolmos.8395

Tolmos.8395

Guess people are missing the point: i know that they simply hit whatever is near them, as things stands now. And their terrible AI is well known too.
What i’m saying is that since they are turrets, thus mechanical beings, there is a case where this doesn’t make sense logically; that is, illusions.
If devs wanted, there would be logical reasons to basically make turrets a sort of counter to mesmers’ illusions. Giving them reasons to go after turrets before killing the one who set them up – a thing they do directly, as now.

Meh, in this case I don’t mind the charity of giving this one to the mesmers. Their clones are practically worthless. I’ve never once lost 1v1 to a mesmer, or even remotely come close. They just are badly designed for such all around. Their clones practically run giant neon signs that say “IM NOT THE ORIGINAL”, so there’s no chance of you being tricked.

It’s sort of like a little kid being allowed a headstart in a track race against an Olympic athlete. Let em have it… just let em have it.

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Posted by: timecookie.8570

timecookie.8570

Just make turrets focus their owner’s target already. Or make Phantasms focus anything but the Mesmer’s target, should be fun for a while.

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Posted by: TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

Guess people are missing the point: i know that they simply hit whatever is near them, as things stands now. And their terrible AI is well known too.
What i’m saying is that since they are turrets, thus mechanical beings, there is a case where this doesn’t make sense logically; that is, illusions.
If devs wanted, there would be logical reasons to basically make turrets a sort of counter to mesmers’ illusions. Giving them reasons to go after turrets before killing the one who set them up – a thing they do directly, as now.

Before we go THAT in depth about them countering Mesmers dude THEY MUST function properly…you should make this topic when they are out of alpha stage.

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