Guild Wars 2

Hello friends!

Well I reinstalled the game a few days ago and imagine my surprise when I found out grenades aren’t meta anymore! After something like 3 years it finally happened! I was so happy! But then I discovered that the new Engi meta is some boring tanky build mashing 111211113111114111115111111 with the hammer. Screw that I say! I’d rather go back to grenades. So I messed around with a few builds and came up with this!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFASlUUh6rY1VwELQ+FLvFF9xH8J/3QFhBg4F1EJBA-TJBFABA8AA+vMQJ7PIwFAAA

Playing the build is simple. You want to try to set up your burst combo every time it’s off cooldown. Load up a bunch of might stacks > Stun with Hammer 5 > Grenade Barrage > Either Rocket Charge for dazes or Electro Whirl for faster damage.

When Barrage is on cooldown, just mash grenades onto the point and/or at people. Grenades will do fair damage with might stacks. If it’s safe-ish in a large fight or if you’re in a small fight, leap in with hammer 3 and hammer 2 for a quick burst. If people focus you, disengage with blocks, invuln, and stealth.

Your goal is to run from point to point, +1 in fights and blow people up. Literally!

Tips:

• Toss Elixir B in conjunction with the Mass Momentum trait in the Scrapper line will give you 8-9 might stacks. Crazy!
• Tornado will give you 10 might stacks with Mass Momentum. If you pop Elixir X and don’t get Rampage, you can stay in Tornado for some extra might, wait until you knock someone back, then quickly exit Tornado form and start your burst attacks.
• Rampage will also give you might. Stack some might before you use Elixir X. That way if you get Rampage, you’ll keep building might and once you go over 10 stacks of might, Applied Force will give you quickness. Quickness Rampage is hilarious.
• 1v1 at your own risk. If someone is super tanky with sustain, don’t even bother unless you can lead with a successful stealth burst. They’re butts for playing that build anyway.
• Hammer 5 and Grenade Barrage almost have the same cooldown. If one is up, the other probably will be too.
• Moa before your burst combo on classes with instant counters to burst damage such as Necros with their Death Shroud, Mesmers with their invuln shatter, Thieves with their ports or block, etc.
• IDK if it’s just me, but they really reduced the visibility and the audio for Swirling Winds and added projectile hate to a lot of new and existing skills so pay attention and don’t waste your grenades.

Variants:

• Some people in my stream chat said people don’t use Sigil of Fire anymore and opt for Sigil of Blood instead. If that tickles your fancy, go for it!
• Adaptive Armor over Applied Force. If you’re having trouble surviving against Thieves, Revenants, and Necros (your counters) take this.
• Before I started using this, I had Tool Kit instead of Elixir B and Traveler Runes for move speed. Your damage noticeably isn’t as high but you get two blocks. And fun times with Magnet.

And finally, here is a snippet from my last stream showcasing how I play a small teamfight, a high octane chase scene, and 100-0 bursting down a poor Guardian.
https://www.twitch.tv/livskis/v/64339402

Bye friends!

wahoo frand

I’m not a huge fan of the trait that makes you drink an S at 25% health… find it’s hard to account for and kitten inconvenient when I’m just about to put the finishing hit on someone 1v1.

It’s inconvenient when it stops you from doing something, but convenient when it saves you from a super burst attack or focus fire and it helps you revive teammates. Sometimes I will ignore all the cleave and keep reviving knowing that Elixir S will kick in and give me a few more seconds of invulnerable reviving.

It’s better than Backpack Regenerator for frail, high damage builds like this.

I expected better from you ellesee!

I want to see some of your crazy rando builds like the old Gadgeteer! None of this hammer with alchemy and elixers snorefest!

I need a real build before I can make fun builds! I also have no idea what anything is so I need to learn that too before I do anything.

I request a build that can PvP with bombs… man it would be nice to have those back.

I saw your stream yesterday and that was really awesome.
Very high DPS build.

Looks pretty similar to the Soldier Rifle build some used to run before HoT came out, except you’re obviously taking scrapper over inventions.

I’ll have to try it out.

VeeWee, your months late. :P

My variant :
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Scrapper_-_Marauder_Explosives

I am currently using this build. Its a bit suseptible to condis but quite a surprise against power builds. It packs enough damage that I seem to be alright taking out some of the bunker eles (hard to tell their ultimate skill level but some quasi decent ones)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFASlcThatY1VwdLQ7FLTGl4zcABA9fn37d42lMhFA-TJRBQBP4CAYw9HAXZAA8AAAA

Novuake.2691:

VeeWee, your months late. :P

My variant :
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Scrapper_-_Marauder_Explosives

Nice build friend! Looks like yours is more suited for 1v1s on point! Mine is more for roaming and blowing people up!

Hello friends!

Apparently berserker Engineer is dedz in the PvE so I decided to convert my zerk gear to marauder WvW gear. I’ve run this WvW variant of the Scrapnado build pretty successfully. Got rekt a few times by aids builds but won a lot more including a 1v6! It’s amazing when you catch 3 people in a Thunderclap > Grenade Barrage and one shot them all!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdQQFASnsTB1XhVXBmYBEqil3ii+4D+k/boiwAQ8iaikA-T1BFABls/AAPAA9V/pJlfCcBAuSJo66ACAgAczbGAO6RP6RP6R7m38o38o3sUAjtMC-w

I have never really cared for infusions so I don’t know much about them; I don’t know whether or not you can have all offensive infusions but if you can, I would definitely use all power infusions. I had some extra laurels so I just bought all the infusions that corresponded with the slots on my gear.

Playstyle is pretty much the same. Med Kit, even though it’s bad, is there for more swiftness, a necessary sacrifice. Can’t be running around the giant world being chased by 80 people without swiftness.

you certainly can have power infusions in defensive slots but really the wvw specific infusions are cheaper and tuned to wvw. -10% guard damage, 50 toughness… for 50 laurels instead of 1000g+ for 50 power. in a place where toughness is generally useful. it aint bad.

ellesee.8297:

Hello friends!

Apparently berserker Engineer is dedz in the PvE so I decided to convert my zerk gear to marauder WvW gear. I’ve run this WvW variant of the Scrapnado build pretty successfully. Got rekt a few times by aids builds but won a lot more including a 1v6! It’s amazing when you catch 3 people in a Thunderclap > Grenade Barrage and one shot them all!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdQQFASnsTB1XhVXBmYBEqil3ii+4D+k/boiwAQ8iaikA-T1BFABls/AAPAA9V/pJlfCcBAuSJo66ACAgAczbGAO6RP6RP6R7m38o38o3sUAjtMC-w

I have never really cared for infusions so I don’t know much about them; I don’t know whether or not you can have all offensive infusions but if you can, I would definitely use all power infusions. I had some extra laurels so I just bought all the infusions that corresponded with the slots on my gear.

Playstyle is pretty much the same. Med Kit, even though it’s bad, is there for more swiftness, a necessary sacrifice. Can’t be running around the giant world being chased by 80 people without swiftness.

Nades spam also condition. Why not trying with celestial for having also a little more condi damage ?

Because the condition damage grenades deal is bad: Shrapnel, Shrapnel Grenades, and Poison Grenade. It’s not worth sacrificing all your burst to boost a few bleed stacks and some poison.

PierPiero.9142:

Nades spam also condition. Why not trying with celestial for having also a little more condi damage ?

No incendiary powder, so condis from nades are poor.
Not worth running into firearms.

Updated the build friends to fare better against Thieves and Revenants, the two classes that push all other power builds out of the game. Currently 9-0 in ranked with all blowout victories. I would’ve played more but I can’t stand 10 min queue times.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFASlUUh6rY1VwELQ+FLvFF9xH8J/3QFhBg4F1EJBA-TJBFABA8AA+vMQJ7PIwFAAA

Good luck running grenade kit in Reflect Wars 2.

…wahoo!

ellesee.8297:

Hello friends!

Well I reinstalled the game a few days ago and imagine my surprise when I found out grenades aren’t meta anymore! After something like 3 years it finally happened! I was so happy! But then I discovered that the new Engi meta is some boring tanky build mashing 111211113111114111115111111 with the hammer. Screw that I say! I’d rather go back to grenades. So I messed around with a few builds and came up with this!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFASlUUh6rY1VwELQ+FLvFF9xH8J/3QFhBg4F1EJBA-TJBFABA8AA+vMQJ7PIwFAAA

Playing the build is simple. You want to try to set up your burst combo every time it’s off cooldown. Load up a bunch of might stacks > Stun with Hammer 5 > Grenade Barrage > Either Rocket Charge for dazes or Electro Whirl for faster damage.

When Barrage is on cooldown, just mash grenades onto the point and/or at people. Grenades will do fair damage with might stacks. If it’s safe-ish in a large fight or if you’re in a small fight, leap in with hammer 3 and hammer 2 for a quick burst. If people focus you, disengage with blocks, invuln, and stealth.

Your goal is to run from point to point, +1 in fights and blow people up. Literally!

Tips:

• Toss Elixir B in conjunction with the Mass Momentum trait in the Scrapper line will give you 8-9 might stacks. Crazy!
• Tornado will give you 10 might stacks with Mass Momentum. If you pop Elixir X and don’t get Rampage, you can stay in Tornado for some extra might, wait until you knock someone back, then quickly exit Tornado form and start your burst attacks.
• Rampage will also give you might. Stack some might before you use Elixir X. That way if you get Rampage, you’ll keep building might and once you go over 10 stacks of might, Applied Force will give you quickness. Quickness Rampage is hilarious.
• 1v1 at your own risk. If someone is super tanky with sustain, don’t even bother unless you can lead with a successful stealth burst. They’re butts for playing that build anyway.
• Hammer 5 and Grenade Barrage almost have the same cooldown. If one is up, the other probably will be too.
• IDK if it’s just me, but they really reduced the visibility and the audio for Swirling Winds and added projectile hate to a lot of new and existing skills so pay attention and don’t waste your grenades.

Variants:

• Some people in my stream chat said people don’t use Sigil of Fire anymore and opt for Sigil of Blood instead. If that tickles your fancy, go for it!
• Adaptive Armor over Applied Force. If you’re having trouble surviving against Thieves, Revenants, and Necros (your counters) take this.
• Before I started using this, I had Tool Kit instead of Elixir B and Traveler Runes for move speed. Your damage noticeably isn’t as high but you get two blocks. And fun times with Magnet.

And finally, here is a snippet from my last stream showcasing how I play a small teamfight, a high octane chase scene, and 100-0 bursting down a poor Guardian.
https://www.twitch.tv/livskis/v/64339402

Bye friends!

Dude I love the schtick, but why would you do this to yourself? I’m sure it works against people playing alts for ascension achievements, but is this supposed to be power? Condi? Alot of wasted utility slots imo, and alot of foregone sustain in hopes that your rotation goes just so.

Why would you think this is a condi build? And how are Elixir S, B, and Grenade Kit wasted utilities? There is no sustain because it’s not supposed to be a sustain build. I find those very boring to play and cancerous to the game as a whole but that’s a topic for another thread. It’s supposed to be a roaming +1 exploding people in 2 seconds build.

but you can roam and explode people in 2 seconds and sustain, so you should prolly play that instead if you wanna win =)

insanemaniac.2456:

but you can roam and explode people in 2 seconds and sustain, so you should prolly play that instead if you wanna win =)

dam. How2?

ellesee.8297:

insanemaniac.2456:

but you can roam and explode people in 2 seconds and sustain, so you should prolly play that instead if you wanna win =)

dam. How2?

The burst there is exaggerated a bit, but they mean just running the meta build. It’s all the burst your build has outside of grenade kit, which is just a liability in the current meta. Egun has just outclassed grenade kit ever since HoT came out and it’s just gotten better with condi war hitting the field.

I’m not saying this build will be the new meta. I made this build because I did not want to play tanky 5311112111111411111 Engi. I’ll mine iron ore for my future legendary if I want to fall asleep.

Part of my down putting was my misunderstanding that this was more than pvp build. It’s just where my mind goes. W/e you think is fun for pve. I still run around with rifle S/D build in most pve, just cause I like it. My bad bro

This is a PvP build m8.

ellesee.8297:

Hello friends!

Vee Wee imposter confirmed.

Huygens.4075:

ellesee.8297:

Hello friends!

Vee Wee imposter confirmed.

Or she just learnt how to spell

+1 for asura engi

Hello friends! I achieved my goal of amber to diamond with over 80% win rate with the build! Pretty happy about that and I think it shows that this is more than just a build to beat “alts for ascension achievements”. So if you are like me and think the meta build is super boring or maybe you just like grenades, give the build a try!

I´m playing a slightly variation of this grenade build myself just to be a different engineer. Furthermore there is a Love/hate with grenades and i was looking for a build which gives me good damage.

But there are 3 things i really miss with this build.

1.) Moving speed – “soooouuu….sloooouuuwww-huuuuoouurry gouuu touuu the pooooint”
2.) Sustain: You really feel the absence of bunker down -“What was that – i lost 1 vs 1, no hp regain”
3.) Grenade Range. Pllllzzzz give 1200 range back! -“Go near them Range doesn´t fit – moar mooaar mooooaaar ****.”

your build is really fun, i tried it. The only problem, respect to meta, is that it is much harder at least for me to fight against condi bombers . Now, at least in EU , it is quite common to fight teams made with 4 o 5 condi spammer ( i also play engineer or condi mesmer ) and if u don’t burst down they fast… you die. A good condi warrior now , is not a simple matchup with nades for me. With classic eg, bulk gyro and blast gyro i find more easy to take him down.

You are taking the meta build’s role as a bruiser and excellent 1v1 node fighter and applying it to this build, a teamfighter and roamer. Don’t do that. Stay far away and mash your grenades until you see an opportunity to barrage/hammer burst. Condi Warriors aren’t too bad to fight 1v1 if you accept that you can’t keep the point. Just kite them forever with your grenades and don’t get hit by Pin Down.

ellesee.8297:

Condi Warriors aren’t too bad to fight 1v1 if you accept that you can’t keep the point.

So what’s the point in fighting them?

To kill them? I’m not sure I understand your question.

You said “you can’t keep the point”, hinting that you were trying to defend a capped point, so my question was why fighting a war trying to defend a point if you can’t hold it.

Unless you meant something else with the word keep.

Well you don’t just run away and give the point up for free. But if you stubbornly try to stay on the point to prevent a decap against a condi warrior, you will die and accomplish nothing. This doesn’t just apply to this build. This applies to everything and I see so many people try to fight a superior class/build/player on point and try in vain to prevent the decap. Stay on it as long as you can, but don’t be afraid to let them neut the point as you try to get a superior position off point to bombard them with grenades.

Or I guess you could just give up the point for free if it’s beneficial for you to be somewhere else or if you’re in danger of getting +1’d. It all depends on the situation I suppose.

I found out that mortar kit does quit well against warrior, thief and revenant with that blind and freeze.

lol, kitten elixir b, kitten nades. i hate them both for no reason.