Guild Wars 2

What sigils are best for proc with an hgh p/p condition build. I will have a 3rd pistol with sigil of corruption then when i hit 25 stack i switch to a pistol with blank blank on crit chance.

Sigil of earth. It has a high(60%) chance on crit for 5 second bleed and only 2 second cooldown. You can stack a few bleeds on its own or if you have condition duration.

Sigil of accuracy for the other hand. Extra 5% crit chance and no cooldown to interfere with sigil of earth.

kokocabana.8153:

Sigil of earth. It has a high(60%) chance on crit for 5 second bleed and only 2 second cooldown. You can stack a few bleeds on its own or if you have condition duration.

Sigil of accuracy for the other hand. Extra 5% crit chance and no cooldown to interfere with sigil of earth.

Sigil if earth sucks. Doesn’t stack with the one that gives might on weapon swap. There are 3 kind of sigils : the ones with a cooldown, the ones with a passive effect and the ones with a stacking effect. Two sigils of the same kind do not stack.

I’d say, you probably got enough condition duration and the like, not sure it’s worth it to use any of the passive sigils once you get 25 stacks.

Did you even read his post? He said he’s looking for a sigil that procs on crit. A weapon swap sigil doesn’t count.

on-crit procs are a no no when using a sigil of battle.

for you two knuckleheads with reading and comprehension problems, notice that he said 3rd pistol, not 3rd and 4th, and that he was swapping the corruption pistol, not both.

Check condi duration first and see if there’s a chance of getting an extra burn tick from adding 10% to the duration. If not, +5% crit for more Incendiary Powder and Sharp Shooter procs would be my choice.

I’d go with sigil of earth, myself.

Although you could try a sigil of generosity instead. This would afford you some extra condition management and allow you to turn your foe’s attacks against them. You could transfer an immobilize or high confusion stack or something.

Sigil of earth would be much more reliable though.

Sigil of Air or Sigil of Fire are the only choices I’d recommend.

AlietteFaye.7316:

Sigil of Air or Sigil of Fire are the only choices I’d recommend.

They’re good choices, although arguably not the best choices with a condition damage focused build as described. If he has a decent amount of power, then perhaps these could be better choices, but I’d generally use these two sigils on a rifle build as opposed to pistols.

Yamsandjams.3267:

AlietteFaye.7316:

Sigil of Air or Sigil of Fire are the only choices I’d recommend.

They’re good choices, although arguably not the best choices with a condition damage focused build as described. If he has a decent amount of power, then perhaps these could be better choices, but I’d generally use these two sigils on a rifle build as opposed to pistols.

This is true. But I personally wouldn’t be using On Crit sigils for a Condition build, so I just recommended what’s best for On Crit sigils.

AlietteFaye.7316:

Yamsandjams.3267:

AlietteFaye.7316:

Sigil of Air or Sigil of Fire are the only choices I’d recommend.

They’re good choices, although arguably not the best choices with a condition damage focused build as described. If he has a decent amount of power, then perhaps these could be better choices, but I’d generally use these two sigils on a rifle build as opposed to pistols.

This is true. But I personally wouldn’t be using On Crit sigils for a Condition build, so I just recommended what’s best for On Crit sigils.

Why not? Something like sigil of earth will allow you to apply extra bleeds. A lot of condition builds will also have a lot of points in firearms, meaning they have a natural higher precision and thus more crit-proc opportunities, especially if they are elixir-based.

It also has a 2 second cooldown compared to 5, and 60% chance per crit compared to 30%. With some condition duration boosting, this can easily result in 5+ extra stacks of bleed on someone during the course of a battle.

I can maybe see a case if you didn’t go far into firearms, but most p/p build will.

OP said “HGH build” which means only 10 in firearms. It’s not pure condi build. He also said “3rd pistol”, not “second set of pistols”. It also means that the pistol that won’t be getting swapped will have a sigil of battle in it. er go: he shouldn’t be using any on-crit sigils or he’ll kitten up is might stacking thereby kittening up his damage output just for an unreliable RNG proc.

give this a read
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sigil

hackks.3687:

OP said “HGH build” which means only 10 in firearms. It’s not pure condi build. He also said “3rd pistol”, not “second set of pistols”. It also means that the pistol that won’t be getting swapped will have a sigil of battle in it. er go: he shouldn’t be using any on-crit sigils or he’ll kitten up is might stacking thereby kittening up his damage output just for an unreliable RNG proc.

give this a read
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sigil

Thank you for covering why I wouldn’t be using on-crit sigils.

Actually I am doing 0/30/10/30/0 with rabid armor and condition damage runes. So i am doing pure condition damage. Doesn’t the procc come from crit chance not crit damage? I will have very high crit chance but very little crit damage. So should I add trinkets with crit damage or even pistols with crit damage on them? I will also be using toolkit and elixirs.

There are a few dark horses in this category that might be useful to mention:

There is Sigil of Blood, which doesn’t steal much life, but is a 2 second cool-down, even though play testing indicates it might be longer. With a lot of procs, this could add up, and can stack with Omnomberry ghosts (and their cooldown >.<) for alternating on proc life theft. It does add around 450 damage to the hit as well, so that is some extra damage.

Sigil of Ice for more chill… which is amazingly awesome in literally all kinds of fights, even with the cool-down. Stack with Condition Duration food or Ghost Pepper poppers (no cool-down that I know of) for additional chill opportunities at night in PvE or WvW. 10 second cool-down is a bit long, but if you are watching for the proc, you can alternate it with Freeze Grenades so you don’t over-chill for one throw.

Sigil of Generosity/Purity For condition removal/transference each have a 60% chance on proc and a 10 second cooldown. The cool down is very long for practical purposes, and isn’t a clutch fix for 1v1 Necro fights, but in larger combat it would be nice to be able to proverbially light the sticks of dynamite and throw them back.

This really depends on where you are running this build, different sigils are useful in different situations, and honestly, I carry about 6 pistols with me for the versatility. I do shield with them about 60% of the time and have Strength on one and Hydromancy on the other.

AlietteFaye.7316:

hackks.3687:

OP said “HGH build” which means only 10 in firearms. It’s not pure condi build. He also said “3rd pistol”, not “second set of pistols”. It also means that the pistol that won’t be getting swapped will have a sigil of battle in it. er go: he shouldn’t be using any on-crit sigils or he’ll kitten up is might stacking thereby kittening up his damage output just for an unreliable RNG proc.

give this a read
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sigil

Thank you for covering why I wouldn’t be using on-crit sigils.

What? None of that made any sense… what part of “HGH build” means only 10 in firearms? That only implies 30 in alchemy. There’s plenty of HGH builds with 30 in alchemy and 30 in firearms. A lot of the p/p roamer varieties use that trait distribution.

The OP also says nothing about using a sigil of battle in his other pistol. Obviously you don’t want to have conflicting cooldowns, but it hasn’t been established what sigil is in his other pistol. He’s simply expressed curiosity about proc-on-crit ones.

Luckily it appears I was interpreting the OP correctly…

ionic.2106:

Actually I am doing 0/30/10/30/0 with rabid armor and condition damage runes. So i am doing pure condition damage. Doesn’t the procc come from crit chance not crit damage? I will have very high crit chance but very little crit damage. So should I add trinkets with crit damage or even pistols with crit damage on them? I will also be using toolkit and elixirs.

You’re correct in saying that the proc comes from crit chance and not crit damage. Investing in crit chance would be good for your build since it means additional condition procs from your traits and whatever sigils you might end up using if you choose to use any (i.e. sigil of earth).

Crit damage will still be helpful, but not at the expense of crit chance/precision. Crit damage is often a better investment if you are primarily focusing on direct damage since it only affects the direct damage done on critical hits. Crit damage will not add anything to condition damage, so if you are going to be focusing primarily on condition damage you can safely avoid investing in crit damage.

As some of the other posters have implied though, you may be better off going with a sigil that provides might stacks if you are going for might duration runes (i.e. sigil of battle). This would mean not using a proc-on-crit sigil though.

Condition duration is another thing you can look at investing in (i.e. Giver’s pistol, rare veggie pizza) if you haven’t looked at that yet.