Guild Wars 2

Well let me be first one to publicly say… I am disappointed in holosmith. To the level I don’t even have further motivation to finish my legendary armor (why did I choose medium precursor… light would be sooooooo much better).

After another 2 years when we (at least I) cried for significant team support specialisation, after patch after patch increasing power of base engi condi/power, and giving no TLC to any support skills. I thought: “Hey our next spec will probably be support. Why else buff our dmg, and not buffing support.”
All we get is DPS specialisation (next to our bruiser spec)… It seems Anet wasn’t very keen on “base class doing primary role better than specialisation”, so they provided even bigger numbers.

Well if you like to play LoL Rumble, then here you have your class. But I don’t fell like it.

The new elite spec gives us some sort of a weapon swap (resulting in expected consequences for kits). I will most likely not bother trying to play it.

I also wanted a more viable support spec, but right now engie’s strongest role is DPS and they do that without an elite spec. Adding an elite spec that can feel good for endgame (unlike scrapper) is probably more important than making an alternative endgame playstyle viable at this point for engineer.

HOWEVER. I expect them to buff the Scrapper’s team utility and further hone its identity as a support spec/tank that can actually hold value in endgame PVE.

I know I am, mostly because I am not really seeing anything unique thats actually usefull about it. I mean the scrapper at least got the stomp gyro making it the smallscale stomper under pressure in WvW. The holosmith got… AoE for denying a conquest cap? I suppose? I dont know. There is nothing about it that stuck out to me.

Plus, the sword automaticly only make the shield or offhand pistol usable. One plain sucks and the other is condi only, unless the sword change their skills. Havent checled that.

Holomancer seems to be ultimately a selfish dps class. They have access to easy 100% crit chance with very little investment, hybrid raw damage and condi damage, barrier generation and self sustain. That’s a pretty powerful collection of pros for a DPS no matter how you look at it. So yeah, they might not be bringing anything new to the table but who knows, they may very well end up being a prime pick for dps filler in raids or pvp?

Every single weapon or kit is already designed to be optimally used in melee or short range, even the Mortar kit is far more reliably used on closer targets due to greatly shortening the projectile travel time.

The thing Engineer utterly lacks is some long-range options. Something more than just pot shots from rifle AA or spamming mortar shells and hoping your target doesn’t move.
Then HoT gave us Scrapper with another weapon designed for melee/shortrange and now it seems Holosmith is going to be yet another melee/short-range build. When i saw that holorifle get pulled out i at least had hope, but after a closer inspection of the tooltips it seems to be designed for 600range or less.

Hard to really form an opinion without getting my hands on it. Everyone thought scrapper was going to be trash too, and it ended up being one of the most broken elite specs.

It’ll offer a playstyle different from the scrapper in PvP and WvW, and it’ll hopefully offer a more enjoyable PvE experience than the current metabuild does. I am cautiously optimistic.

On the bright side, the new elite spec its not 100% pointless.

While i was in the vagon of wanting a support spec for us, this new spec could be the answer to a new respectable power dps build that some of us wanted, a power build that debunks the bomb aa supremacy in power setups.

Bonus points in more pvp builds?

I don’t think it’s a letdown, but it’s definitely not the selling point for the expansion compared to some other classes (Necro and Warrior I think are the two most interesting changes). Holosmith is just a toy to play around with and shake up the usual. It’s basically Necro’s reaper brought to Engineer, but can actually get you killed rather than save you :P Like scrapper, I’m pretty sure most engie mains are going to play with it for a bit, but then cherry pick the better parts of it and move on, or outright return back to classic engineer builds.

As for the selfish bit, I’ve always seen the engineer as selfish and that’s part of why I love the profession. I like being a jack of all trades and self sufficient such that I don’t need the support of others to be useful in any part of the game.

Right now it seems really boring to me. Even more melee DPS, without interesting synergies outside the Holo exclusive weapon+skills, without interesting interaction with your party, and more similar to basic warrior than ever.

No significant positioning game, no significant role change, and even worst, a debatable aesthetic proposal (Its only me, or the Holo Mode skills really are disguised versions of other profession skills?)

I really had hope this was going to be more…

In the good side, I think the new cc options seem fun, and this time we didn’t get AI mechanics again. Praise the Eternal Alchemy.

Huge burst potential with high-crit/guaranteed crit abilities + increased damage from Heat mechanic on base abilities (balanced by basically a 6s wind-up time because of Elite) = broken OP damage

Wait and see…

It was the only one that looked interesting to me. All the rest looked pretty meh tbh.

Not me!

It is everything I always wanted for my Engineer Profession!

I am.
I came back and started tentatively playing my engineer again with the hopes of using a sword.
But the reality is, this isn’t even really a sword spec. It’s a “form/shroud/stance” spec. All traits are dependent on using Photon Forge form, which half the skills are replaced by “photon” weapons other than a sword and the sword in the from uses a separate skin than your actual weapon.
The last part is mostly a cosmetic thing, but considering the amount of money people spend on skins in this game, you can’t really say it isn’t an issue.

So, now I wait to see the details on the Ranger elite, to see if that actually seems like something I would like. Otherwise, the expansion is a no starter for me as my main interest is mechanics not more land that will always be essentially the same as all MMOs.

Iosevus.2893:

I am.
I came back and started tentatively playing my engineer again with the hopes of using a sword.
But the reality is, this isn’t even really a sword spec. It’s a “form/shroud/stance” spec. All traits are dependent on using Photon Forge form, which half the skills are replaced by “photon” weapons other than a sword and the sword in the from uses a separate skin than your actual weapon.
The last part is mostly a cosmetic thing, but considering the amount of money people spend on skins in this game, you can’t really say it isn’t an issue.

So, now I wait to see the details on the Ranger elite, to see if that actually seems like something I would like. Otherwise, the expansion is a no starter for me as my main interest is mechanics not more land that will always be essentially the same as all MMOs.

I don’t think that’s correct, Aurora Peach’s video shows her using a regular sword and not the lightsaber shown in the PoF trailer.

Dravyn.4671:

I don’t think that’s correct, Aurora Peach’s video shows her using a regular sword and not the lightsaber shown in the PoF trailer.

You can use the sword, but look at the traits. The whole line is wasted outside of Photon Forge form. So if you want to use the sword and not the form, well doubt it could be done effectively cause you waste an entire line, and while in form it changes you to be candy coated with holographic weapons.

I’m excited for it! I cannot wait to use my fiery dragon sword on my main

my only concern is that it will be nerfed to hell because other players are used to engi being mediocre at dps and will call it op

Definitely meh about holosmith, it looks like a repetition of every mistake anet has ever made for engineer outside of the endless Ai horror.

Replace Aesthetics with none-customisable models….check
lacks range…..check
Piano grade 5 required for play….check
lack of focus on power/condi…..check
Copied skills from other classes….check
extremely situation traits …check

I can’t stand the idea of the holo-shroud, especially since it seems to be either replacing an elite toolbelt slot or yet another key to bind. It’s essential just another kit, with a full body hobo-sack except this one is a suicide bomb and the weapon skills will be nerfed to uselessness on the first balance patch after release because burst is OP to PvP whiners.

The usual Engi problem of Anet having no idea what to do with the class so just repeating all the same old mistakes with a few new ones thrown in.

Personally, I hate it, and mostly for the visuals. It’s like they went out of their way to give you epilepsy. A flashing light show that is straight out of the SAB school of thinking that only an asura would like. And I hate SAB. So. Yeah. Utter Utter garbage. IMO.

I guess I don’t understand that sentiment. Original Engineer style was straight out of a Charr warband and that continued with Scrapper. Why not have different racial flavors with new specs?

i love the holosmith so far , its a jack of all trades as an engineer should be it has both melee and long ranged attacks as well as some condi if you manage the heat system and trais properly , theres a no heat risk trait for low skill build and a high heat trait wich unlocks more effects on heat build up for skilled players

so yeah it is gonna be a spec with high skill ceiling but good pay off for once

eh.. im more on the charr side of tech so the holosmith crosses my usual view of gw engineering, thats about the only “complain” i got there. Already prepping an asura for it to fix my issue.

I’m neutral so far. I just love the current P/P/FT/Nade/Bomb/Mortar Viper Condi meta playstyle and am hoping Holosmith can integrate well with it as a viable replacement for Tools in the current Explosions/Firearms/Tools build.

So far that looks like a maybe. Holosmith definitely has more damaging Condi’s than Tools, but Tools gives you ~2500 DPS that Holo will have to compensate for (Static Discharge (300 DPS), Streamlined Kits (1000 DPS), Excessive Energy (600 DPS), Kinetic Battery (600 DPS)).

A few questions:

1. Can you build up Heat with all skills (like kits and P/P skills?) or just Holo Skills and Utilities? If the latter that may limit viable builds, rotations, and playstyle a great deal.

2. Holo overrides F5 no matter what you choose for your corresponding Elite Skill. Will Orbital Strike or other Elites’ F5 skills be missed? And why does Holo have to override F5 when it could simply have used Weapon Swap instead?

3. Sword has a 3-part auto attack chain, with the third auto causing an explosion. I’m assuming that will trigger Shrapnel (AoE Bleed). It also reduces the cooldown of Sword #2 by 3s, which also applies Bleed, meaning Sword #2 should be useable after every two autoattack chains. Looks like an autoattack-based Condi rotation, wonder how/if that can be integrated into the current non-autoattack-based Condi rotation.

kurtosis.9526:

1. Can you build up Heat with all skills (like kits and P/P skills?) or just Holo Skills and Utilities? If the latter that may limit viable builds, rotations, and playstyle a great deal.

1. “Heat gain %” is shown only in the tooltips for the Photon Forge weapon skills. I think only PF skills build heat.

I had the complete opposite reaction. Engineer will be my new main after the expansion comes out. The elite alone sold it for me. Who doesn’t want to vaporize people with a giant energy beam? Also, lightsabers…

Eng already has some of the best utility as a class. They are a great support, but I could see being disappointed if you wanted something closer to ele/druid support. Although, I don’t think you can say eng is lacking in the support area compared with a lot of other classes.

I think a more direct dmg oriented spec is welcome. The scrapper definitely has good damage, but I wouldn’t consider it a pure dps spec (dmg is balanced with the suvivability/utility aspects). Outside of scrapper, condi tends to rule for core dmg specs.

Holosmith looks the best out of all of the revealed elite specs imo.

I am reserving judgement until i see their balance of it in the balance patch. They need to seriously take time to make sure it’s a power build which is severely lacking in the Engi.

I would also like to see them take a look at the explosive line to make it better since we have explosive options with the heat mechanic.

Isn’t scrapper already power…….

Scrapper is power but it’s not a DPS. Base engie power builds deal more damage than scrappers by quite a lot.

Iosevus.2893:

I am.
I came back and started tentatively playing my engineer again with the hopes of using a sword.
But the reality is, this isn’t even really a sword spec. It’s a “form/shroud/stance” spec. All traits are dependent on using Photon Forge form, which half the skills are replaced by “photon” weapons other than a sword and the sword in the from uses a separate skin than your actual weapon.
The last part is mostly a cosmetic thing, but considering the amount of money people spend on skins in this game, you can’t really say it isn’t an issue.

So, now I wait to see the details on the Ranger elite, to see if that actually seems like something I would like. Otherwise, the expansion is a no starter for me as my main interest is mechanics not more land that will always be essentially the same as all MMOs.

The sword was a formality to give Engineers some much needed synergy with the Shield. Up until this point, there was never a reason to run shield, except in one fringe case in WvW, since the only main hand (Pistol) was a condi weapon, and the off hand pistol was always taken because blowtorch is the strongest attack in that setup.

Holosmith takes of the basic concept of weapon archetypes as kit skills, and pushes more DPS oriented options where most Engie kits were a mixture of damage, defense and support.

I’ve only seen that we can explode. That’s all I care about.

MrForz.1953:

I’ve only seen that we can explode. That’s all I care about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdbex7bVUHo

A do a F lot of damage with it to enemies, while removing the effect the explosion harm the player, if we trait to with a certain Grand Master trait.

Though don’t keep it up too long because the low slow Burn DoT effect when overheating will still be active even with that Grandmaster trait.

This is easily the weakest of all new elite specs. Subpar damage, and yet for some reason you must damage yourself to attain this. If you think otherwise, you havent looked at the new Ele/Necro/Mesmer/Ranger/Thief/Guardian/Warrior specs, which all easily have better DPS and utility. On top of this self-dmg insult, you also lose your F5 skill, and not the weapon-swap button. Bc reasons and excuses.

I’m not gonna waste my time anymore on what is my favorite class in terms of mechanics. Engineer is always a series of disappointments. They get little resources for proper development by Anet devs since launch. Nerfs and new ideas are always hastily implemented, with little concern for overall class feel and performance relative to other classes. Posts on this forum with suggestions are always ignored.

The past day saw TWO front-page threads on GW2’s subreddit with Holosmith being laughed at by everyone: Fidget-smith, and Jihad-smith. Well done, Anet.

TeaPotty.5941:

This is easily the weakest of all new elite specs. Subpar damage, and yet for some reason you must damage to attain this. If you think otherwise, you havent looked at the new Ele/Necro/Mesmer/Ranger/Thief/Guardian/Warrior specs, which all easily have better DPS and utility. On top of this self-dmg insult, you also lose your F5 skill, and not the weapon-swap button. Bc reasons and excuses.

I’m not gonna waste my time anymore on what is my favorite class in terms of mechanics. Engineer is always a string of disappointments. They get little resources for proper development by Anet devs since launch. Nerfs and new ideas are always hastily implemented, with little concern for overall class feel and performance relative to other classes. Posts on this forum with suggestions are always ignored.

The past day saw TWO front-page threads on GW2’s subreddit with Holosmith being laughed at by everyone: Fidget-smith, and Jihad-smith. Well done, Anet.

Reddit is a has toxic community to begin with. Only select few people actually got the chance to test out the new Elite spec for a very limited time while everyone else is screaming wolf over speculations rather than having actully tested the Elite Spec and gotten the actual data.

This entire paranoia going around is just unhealth for the community over pure specualtions and it not turning out as they wanted it to be is just causing unneeded anger issues.

There is also talk on Reddit that Holosmith tree may replace tool tree or make a perm place in the meta by taking a place of one of the current Meta trees.

EdwinLi.1284:

TeaPotty.5941:

This is easily the weakest of all new elite specs. Subpar damage, and yet for some reason you must damage to attain this. If you think otherwise, you havent looked at the new Ele/Necro/Mesmer/Ranger/Thief/Guardian/Warrior specs, which all easily have better DPS and utility. On top of this self-dmg insult, you also lose your F5 skill, and not the weapon-swap button. Bc reasons and excuses.

I’m not gonna waste my time anymore on what is my favorite class in terms of mechanics. Engineer is always a string of disappointments. They get little resources for proper development by Anet devs since launch. Nerfs and new ideas are always hastily implemented, with little concern for overall class feel and performance relative to other classes. Posts on this forum with suggestions are always ignored.

The past day saw TWO front-page threads on GW2’s subreddit with Holosmith being laughed at by everyone: Fidget-smith, and Jihad-smith. Well done, Anet.

Reddit is a has toxic community to begin with. Only select few people actually got the chance to test out the new Elite spec for a very limited time while everyone else is screaming wolf over speculations rather than having actully tested the Elite Spec and gotten the actual data.

1) No, people like you are toxic – dismissing other ppl’s concerns like they have no valid points to make, just because you can’t accept criticism of products you enjoy. You are also being rude to my comments, as if I dont have a mind of my own to form my own thoughts. Stop pretending you are above others because you feel differently, yet have no counter-argument.

2) We have the numbers from the actual skills, we can do math. I have spent nearly 5 years theorycrafting builds in GW2, and the numbers dont add up to anything significant for Holosmith. Dont tell me that feelings are more relevant than math and numbers.
Additionally, we’ve seen people play the class on stream. Its trash, unless your mostly concerned about style and concept.

EdwinLi.1284:

This entire paranoia going around is just unhealth for the community over pure specualtions and it not turning out as they wanted it to be is just causing unneeded anger issues.

Nonsense. Again, every other class revealed has more to offer in damage or utility.

EdwinLi.1284:

There is also talk on Reddit that Holosmith tree may replace tool tree or make a perm place in the meta by taking a place of one of the current Meta trees.

The new spec may do more damage than old Engi builds, but it still doesnt compete with other classes old or new builds. This is the overwhelming opinion of most veteran Engies I’ve seen on Reddit, this official forum, or in-game. Anything Engi can do, other classes can do better, while being more useful to their group. That is a fact.

TeaPotty.5941:

The past day saw TWO front-page threads on GW2’s subreddit with Holosmith being laughed at by everyone: Fidget-smith, and Jihad-smith. Well done, Anet.

I’m not adding anything into the debate at hand – just wanted to pitch in some humour, as the resident half-Egyptian in the room;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJPIR0ZbxYM

Got to love Reddit sometimes. I will be quite happy to play a Jihadsmith.

TeaPotty.5941:

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Sorry if I sounded rude and I do not believe I am above anyone else. I do not ignore those opinions but I just believe some are over exaggerating a bit too much now because of personal expectation.

I am just tired of all this paranoia going around when the actual testing of the Elite Spec has not even begun yet.

Everything, as you said, is just theorycrafting but none of the results have been actually tested in the game. To be a caution level is fine but directly calling the Holosmith out because it did not meet personal expectations is a bit extreme when only a select few people got a chance to test it.

To react this way now without actual testing of the data is still a bit much and is something that should be hold back until there been real experience and testing of the information.

The Anet developers even stated they are still adjusting the Professions in PoF currently because during the time when they got a few people testing thing, woodenpotato being among them, they did tell them that the Power Build based skills balance has some issues during the beta test and is still under adjustments.

As for the streaming, I would not take those seriously because I do not believe these players were testing out Holosmith properly since they were given a very limited time to test things. At best there should be actually given maybe 2 or 3 days of testing to mix and match trait trees together and test out certain Stats gears.

I think everyone just need to calm down a bit until 2nd Beta testing since that is when players can test out the new Elite Specs for a decent amount of time.

EdwinLi.1284:

TeaPotty.5941:

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Sorry if I sounded rude and I do not believe I am above anyone else.

I am just tired of all this paranoia going around when the actual testing of the Elite Spec has not even begun yet.

Everything as you said is just theorycrafting but none of the results have been actually tested in the game.

You sound just like climate change deniers. Math doesnt lie. This game is coded with numbers, and that is what gives the results in actual play. In-game testing is more about refining combos and tactics. But unless something is bugged, the results wont change. The numbers are so off, it doesnt just require mild adjustment, it requires massive re-work.

EdwinLi.1284:

To react this way now without actual testing of the data is still a bit much and is something that should be hold back until there been real experience and testing of the information.

Wrong. The criticisms are valid, and fact-based. They are important, and would be pretty obvious to Anet if they had properly invested the time to develop this elite spec.

Just the very fact that the damage is subpar makes it ridiculous that it requires self-harm to achieve. This self-harm occurs on what must be Power builds, which means you must be glassier than other condi builds to begin with.

Additionally, you lose your F5 skill, and a 6 second cooldown on your kits. This alone shows that the concept of this spec is probably a recycled idea originally intended for another class. To try and balance it, they implemented these overly-harsh limitations, as in Engi low-dev-time tradition.

Engineers are probably the least-played class in WvW/PvP, and this will just continue this tradition.

EdwinLi.1284:

The Anet developers even stated they are still adjusting the Elite Spec currently becuase during the time when they got a few people testing thing, woodenpotato being among them, they did tell them that the Power Build based skills balance has some issues during the beta test and is still under adjustments.

You are trying hard not to simply say that Holosmith requires massive adjustment.

EdwinLi.1284:

As for the streaming, I would not take those seriously because I do not believe these players were testing out Holosmith properly.

Bog Otter actually demo the Holosmith better than those streamers in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ41aGIYaGk

Word-salad. No argument here at all.

TeaPotty.5941:

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I don’t think we will ever agree on how Holosmith should be judged considering our different beliefs on how to handle data (with you prefer hard math data and I prefer actual field tested data)

On that note:
As I said when I edited my last post. (Blasted forums edit updating are always so slow.)

I think people should just calm down until the 2nd Beta test when players can actually test the Elite spec for a decent amount of time.

I would have rather had a specialization that focuses on vehicles and manned guns.

You all know just how kitten a big stompy steampunk battle mech would be. Could have various channeled area or column AoE attacks, and a blinding rocket engine leap that causes knock down after landing

EdwinLi.1284:

TeaPotty.5941:

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I don’t think we will ever agree on how Holosmith should be judged considering our different beliefs on how to handle data (with you prefer hard math data and I prefer actual field tested data)

On that note:
As I said when I edited my last post. (Blasted forums edit updating are always so slow.)

I think people should just calm down until the 2nd Beta test when players can actually test the Elite spec for a decent amount of time.

Edwin, please understand that elite specializations are supposed to fill gaps in professions. The one thing engineer does not suffer from is lack of damage. What it suffers from is a lack of utility that makes it worth bringing to fractals, PvP, and WvW beyond serving one’s self-interest … and so they give us this? An elite specialization that literally offers zero teamplay?

I mean, even Dragonhunter traps at least shared their boons. I don’t need to playtest Holosmith to know we got shafted here.

Phineas Poe.3018:

EdwinLi.1284:

TeaPotty.5941:

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I don’t think we will ever agree on how Holosmith should be judged considering our different beliefs on how to handle data (with you prefer hard math data and I prefer actual field tested data)

On that note:
As I said when I edited my last post. (Blasted forums edit updating are always so slow.)

I think people should just calm down until the 2nd Beta test when players can actually test the Elite spec for a decent amount of time.

Edwin, please understand that elite specializations are supposed to fill gaps in professions. The one thing engineer does not suffer from is lack of damage. What it suffers from is a lack of utility that makes it worth bringing to fractals, PvP, and WvW beyond serving one’s self-interest … and so they give us this? An elite specialization that literally offers zero teamplay?

I mean, even Dragonhunter traps at least shared their boons. I don’t need to playtest Holosmith to know we got shafted here.

As much as I’m going to have fun playing an actually viable Power build for once in our life that isn’t Static Discharge based, yeah.

We got shafted.

We got shafted even more hardcore than a Lexington Steele flick.

Kusumura.8642:

Phineas Poe.3018:

EdwinLi.1284:

TeaPotty.5941:

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I don’t think we will ever agree on how Holosmith should be judged considering our different beliefs on how to handle data (with you prefer hard math data and I prefer actual field tested data)

On that note:
As I said when I edited my last post. (Blasted forums edit updating are always so slow.)

I think people should just calm down until the 2nd Beta test when players can actually test the Elite spec for a decent amount of time.

Edwin, please understand that elite specializations are supposed to fill gaps in professions. The one thing engineer does not suffer from is lack of damage. What it suffers from is a lack of utility that makes it worth bringing to fractals, PvP, and WvW beyond serving one’s self-interest … and so they give us this? An elite specialization that literally offers zero teamplay?

I mean, even Dragonhunter traps at least shared their boons. I don’t need to playtest Holosmith to know we got shafted here.

As much as I’m going to have fun playing an actually viable Power build for once in our life that isn’t Static Discharge based, yeah.

We got shafted.

We got shafted even more hardcore than a Lexington Steele flick.

Honestly, I believe as of currently the Anet team does not quite know how to develop Engineer into something that provide decent amount of utility due to its “Jack of All Trade but Master of None” nature from its Core Profession

Holosmith has potential for providing utility if Anet developers put effort into adjusting things such as allow Spectrum Shield to provide a lesser version (25% reduction to all damage) of itself to all allies near the Holosmith,Coolant Blast could have a spread effect on the Frost Aura to apply on to nearby allies, and the Hard Light Arena provideds the buffs to all allies in the Arena. However, I believe it is fear holding them back to what Engineer can become if given a Support/Utility focus Elite Spec combined with the Core Skills and traits.

I think more questions should be asked to Anet developers during their Q&A if players want to get any real results for pushing to a proper Utility/Support provided to Engineer or atleast get some real answers why Engineer has been going down this path of development.

EdwinLi.1284:

I think more questions should be asked to Anet developers during their Q&A if players want to get any real results for pushing to a proper Utility/Support provided to Engineer or atleast get some real answers why Engineer has been going down this path of development.

I will be sure to ask. When is this Q&A happening?

Phineas Poe.3018:

EdwinLi.1284:

I think more questions should be asked to Anet developers during their Q&A if players want to get any real results for pushing to a proper Utility/Support provided to Engineer or atleast get some real answers why Engineer has been going down this path of development.

I will be sure to ask. When is this Q&A happening?

They usually have Q&A during Guild Chats streams so you’ll have to be part of their livestream during those times.

Sadly they often limit their questions to ones they want to answer due to time limit of their Guild Chat streams so I doubt anyone can get to any reason why Engineer is being developed this way.

Now back to adjusting Holosmith to more utility….

Trait wise I think they maybe able to adjust the middle traits to be the Utility path in the tree. Prismatic converter, Crystal Configuration, and Enhanced Capacity Storage Unit traits could be adjusted to also affect allies around the Holosmith as well.

This is hilarious, such paranoia…

The few people who had the chance to play Holosmith didnt even had the time to do any testing of the Elite, hell, they didnt even post any review cause they know no more then us here.
Thru the whole time they had a dev sitting on their shoulder pointing at the screen telling them to do this or check that out, the only thing that they menage to check is the general feeling of the Elite not the capabilities of it.
And as they heard from the dev it was still before balance pass, and adjustment, in the end Holosmith can have completly different feeling to it once the expack is out.

In short, what you saw on the live streams was just first iteration of Holosmith.

Cold Hearted Person.6154:

In short, what you saw on the live streams was just first iteration of Holosmith.

You do realize the expansion is dropping next month with a preview weekend next week, right?

What you saw is pretty much what we’re getting.

Phineas Poe.3018:

Cold Hearted Person.6154:

In short, what you saw on the live streams was just first iteration of Holosmith.

You do realize the expansion is dropping next month with a preview weekend next week, right?

What you saw is pretty much what we’re getting.

It is actually Story and PvE Map Demo first next weekened then following after that testing is the Elite Spec Demo weekend.

We’re not testing the new Elite Spec during the 1st testing sadly.

Phineas Poe.3018:

Cold Hearted Person.6154:

In short, what you saw on the live streams was just first iteration of Holosmith.

You do realize the expansion is dropping next month with a preview weekend next week, right?

What you saw is pretty much what we’re getting.

And you do relize that they can tweak, change or completly remove a skill/trait as they see fit even after its out.

The streamers and the dev said it themself, everything is a subject to change.