Guild Wars 2

I am not able , after trying it for a lot, to decide which of this 2 builds are better for pvp. Any idea ?
With alchemy
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-ZRR;2cPVg0l6cQ-x0;9;4jml;0038237146;43t0;35NV05NV02S

With inventions
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-ZRR;2cPVg0l6cQ-x0;9;4jmk;0038237157;43t0;35NV05NV02R
The one with alchemy takes benefit of hgh and elixir cd reduction , it is even stronger if you get EG instead of elixir S ( i use it in wvw not in pvp ) but the one with inventions is really good too . Any suggestion or better build without ft ( I hate ft ) is welcome

Welp, none of them are good anymore.
I understand that you don’t like FT, but orientating yourself that heavily on the old condi-2kit will not help you out much.
try running bombs with elixir gun & elixir U or S.

Tbh, personally I’d recommend to adapt to the FT. it is really powerful now, be it with juggernaut or napalm specialist.

Condition grenades are pretty bad right now, I think.

No native burning or confusion access, and the poison stacks from the #5 are pretty meh. I think p/p + bombs are best for condition builds right now.

whatever you decide, for the inventions one id highly recommend taking lock on over streamlined cuz you have mecha legs and then you counter thieves np and maybe shatter mesmers. you know, just dont double dip on mobility because its not necessary.

that said, i dont like bunker down in condi builds because the mines essentially only scale with power especially when you dont have shrapnel (but i feel like its ok for sinister pve builds). AMR is almost too good to pass up but you dont get much damage like a power build does.

with conditions now bombs better than nades ? for taking bomb should i take explosive and lose IP and firearm ?

curious to know too.

Bombs are not good! You’ll try to get into close bomb range and then explode because the Engi is super fragile, especially since the 200-300 vitality loss! It’s an OK 1v1 build assuming your opponent is silly enough to be on point with you as you unleash your bombs but with the meta heavily centered around roaming builds, a 1v1 will never last for long! At least not against a good team!

The FT isn’t good either! It’s just a gimmcky burn build with a long cooldown, easily countered by one condition cleanse utility and then you’re stuck mashing pistol or elixir gun autos! Engineers are probably one of the worst condi classes atm if not the worst! If being competitive is your goal, then I highly recommend you swap to power grenades!

But as for your original post, I’d take Alchemy! Alchemy is still way better than Inventions!

Wahoo! Bye frands!