Guild Wars 2

how can i win against a bomb/mine/rifle spam engi with a melee class?

thx

Get stability- To stop CC

Get condition removal- To remove the likes of blind and immobilize/cripple

Get toughness- To counter the direct damage, as it is a direct damage build.

wow very appreacited answer.

now a more difficult one:
how can i win against a bomb/mine/rifle spam engi with a thief ?

Chain CC or condition spam.

The weakness of the bomb / mine / rifle build is they lack either a CC break or Condition removal.

Warrior greathammer tends to tare these builds apart if they get the first CC hint in and then chain a few in a row.

Circle strafing keeping chill / cripple up will also pretty much stop blunderbuss and jumpshot.

But if they are doing a toughness bomberman build then you can condition damage.

This really depends on your profession though. Bomberman works much better against some professions than others.

Seems like that’s a case of someone countering you but… if they are using rifle and bombs they likely are going to be in melee range, so use melee range tricks to your advantage. Maybe a scorpion wire, a knockdown trap and just spamming lots of damage with haste.

Alternatively, you go ranged and kite them. Use the shortbow to kite them, and possibly the dagger storm elite to reflect the rifle shots while keeping them away with bombs as it is too risky.

A Rifle Engi shouldn’t be able to hurt you that much, they have mediocre dps. A Grenade or Mine Engi shouldn’t be able to hit you if you know how to move. With a Bomb Engi you just need distance, don’t go in melee.

i don’t know engi, but i was erferring to the common one which spam mines on ground, with the big bomb immobilizes etc etc.

as thief , or warrior, fighting melee is hard because of sustains that engi has. going melee means take damage from those mines and bomb which reject you. engi has immobilizes, than healing plus elite healing. just move in circle and i die.
so i was asking for some point of view.
i will change my build to try to be more effective

sorry redfeather. i didn’t laugh at it. if you want to be helpful you can try another way.

I honestly thought you were joking with the topic. :/
Truth must be that I really suck as I get killed by melee very quickly.

Bomberman engis can have a lot of toughness which can work to counter power / crit thieves.

But they can be easily countered by a skilled kiter, and thieves are adept at this thanks to stealth and long poison duration.

If you wanna try melee though scorpion wire and shadowstep will help a lot. Use scorpion while to pull them away from the mines and CC them in the process. You can typically get 1-2 moves off before they get up. if you then blind them with OH pistol’s smoke field, and then interrupt after it fades you’ll get 2-3 seconds of dps time. When the combo field fades or you run out of initiative you can shadow step away and ping them from range until scorpion wire is ready again. Bomberman engi’s don’t typically have a lot of condition removal if any. Especially if they are running bomb kit + mine kit. So 20-30s of poison will keep them from healing up to much.

The shortbow can help with that was well.

It’s not a pure melee build mind you, but thieves don’t typically do well in pure melee in my experience. Not enough HP or Healing to duke it out blow for blow.

But conditions or chain CC are typically the bane of bomberman.

thx a lot, well in these days i am practicing with D/P but i miss infiltrator’s skill. maybe that’s why i have this problem.
i will focus more on training now.