poor power scaling ?

poor power scaling ?

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Posted by: Anthony.7630

Anthony.7630

Hi guys sorry i post on the forums a lot. I really love the engineer class and i want to see it get better.

I was doing some tests with bomb kit auto (1) and the hammer skills and rifle skills.

I was using berserker gear for massive power damage. I don’t know if i am a complete noob, but it seems power doesn’t really give us major damage.

I went from 2000 power to 2500 power and my bomb auto went from 887 to 1200 damage.

That’s not good…… even with out berserker armor at level 80 my bomb autos were doing 887 damage (on the tooltip it says that)

I tried asssassin armor and got to 80.5% crit and 215% critical damage, and i felt like i was doing more dps with my bomb auto (sitting at 900 damage)

The thing is …why should we go mauraders and berserker and soldiers if the hammer skills bomb kit skills and grenades skills get poor scaling ?

Rifle gets poor scaling too.

On my condition build engineer i can get over 30k damage in 14 seconds with 1 blast of blow torch.

Hammer feels awkward as hell. I am using ascended sentinel armor (50% power 50% toughness 100% vitality)

And my hammer does good damage.

I don’t rally know math theory very well but i am “assuming” engineer power skills have high base damage and low power scaling.

But even with some power – the damage seems to improve a bit but it’s not “glass cannon” when other dps out dps me.

I haven’t checked out other classes’s scaling but it seems engineer power skills have poor scaling.

My hammer auto is always around 600-900 damage on the first 2 auto chains and 900-1200 on the last 3rd final hit chain. It seems power stacking is not that good.

I am not trying to say engineer should stack defensive stats, but what i am trying to say is, for pvp any ways , engineers seem to do okish damage but to get burst damage it really depends on crits really NOT power damage.

I think even with 25 stacks of might and 3000 power are damage wouldn’t be as high as a thief or a warrior.

I been looking at my skill tool tips and they don’t even go up by 50% with berserker gear. It’s more like 15%-20% bonus damage at max with berserker gear.

You could stack soldiers or sentinel or any 50% power and you still be ok on damage.

The burst from my scrapper engineer always came from critical hits. I am not saying to stack assassin armor. I am just say …maybe power scaling is poor ?

Any ways berserker armor does not feel fun in pvp or pve. I can dodge and avoid mechanics but i don’t feel like a top damage dps.

I think power bomber is good (thanks wooden potato) but only because it is simple and the bomb auto has the highest base damage of any auto (bomb 1 does more than hammer swing but both hit up to 5 targets)

Any ways i think engineers have terrible power scaling / coefficients on their power abilities.

Even flamethrower 1 feels like a mix of 1800-2400 power damage based on gear.

I feel like i do more damage with assassins because of the crits and high base values (bomb 1 can start at around 600 damage + power scaling) but with 50% power it sits at around 900 or 1200 with berserker 100% power…..but i crit more often with assassins and constantly get better damage.

I have no math to back this up, it’s just my playing experience.

Also in pvp i use sentinel armor (in wvw) and i out tank all power builds and still do moderate damage to down classes with out condis. (condis still do a lot of damage) but i am only sitting at 2400 power with everything (runes sigils food sharpening stone full sentinel armor) and still bringing down people.

I know i am a NOOB haha but maybe we should get someone to investigate the scaling of power abilities on engineer.

if bomb auto went from 600-1800 damage or higher, i could see berserker armor being better.

My thunder clap is always around 5×3444 to 5×5444 damage depending on my power (none or full zerkers)

That is terrible.

with zerkers i get a slight damage boost but i instantly lose ALL my survivability.

I think assassins would do slightly more dps because you only get half the power but more chances to crit for double damage.

And in pvp i been thinking that, condi meta can only be countered by stacking health (and cleanses) while having a moderate amount of power and using hammer for it’s high base values + poor scaling.

But that’s just my opinion. I hope people look into this. I feel engineer does the worst possible power damage because engineer scales so poorly from the power stat.

poor power scaling ?

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Posted by: TeaPotty.5941

TeaPotty.5941

All scaling on engineer is poor. Even healing power is terrible in scaling. Its almost as if every time an engie build was useful, someone at Anet got horrified, and a nerf was implemented hastily and clumsily.

It has been a long history of nerfs bringing Engie to the near-useless state it is in now.