Guild Wars 2

elementalist burn envy.

been holding it in and have wanted to say that the last 2 months or so since patch.

that’s all. i feel better already. have a nice day.

Engi has just as much burn application? It’s everything else that we’re missing.

You should Kinetic Battery + Incendiary Round – P/P and you’ll be fine.

That will work for about 45 seconds then you’re dead. Not fun jumping into a meat grinder again and again.

Yeah I could be more aggressive with burn application by going to tools but that will make be extremely vulnerable.

I just can’t get over the fact that eles have it so good. Their traits, skills and celestial amulet work harmoniously together.

We have to sacrifice sustainability in order to be competitive with them.

I actually think condi engi is one of the stronger builds in the game. All the time you spend shrunken, blocking, or invis you’re still doing great damage.

Edit: but yes, ele is better obviously. It’s the best class in the game right now so comparing yourself is pointless.

And I thought were the aristocrat class….boy was I wrong

The difference is, burn is the ONLY damage coming from d/d ele (I presume you talk about dd) whereas engi has a lot more sources of damage both condi and physical.
Dodge the RoF and evade fire 2 and d/d has 0 dmg.
Dodge some engi skill and he still has gazillion other surprises up his sleeve.

Jeah sure but not that sustain …

Father Busho.2796:

The difference is, burn is the ONLY damage coming from d/d ele (I presume you talk about dd) whereas engi has a lot more sources of damage both condi and physical.
Dodge the RoF and evade fire 2 and d/d has 0 dmg.
Dodge some engi skill and he still has gazillion other surprises up his sleeve.

This recent thread sums it up on ele and engie burns
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Elementalist-Vs-Engineer-Burn-Damage/

I dont really agree and i feel my burns are amazing but i dont use FT. I feel the burns from it are pretty weak and avoidable. Its more about using the cc from it and rifle to control someone whilst the burn sustain kills them.

There are ways to create strong burns but it isnt through using FT.
I open from stealth with a stack of 8(2800 to 3400 a tick roughly) then usually mask them with confuse blind and poison on top. Thats often enough. I dont rely on them to run into a field or do something stupid and its hard to cleanse.

Playing Guardian i can get 12 stacks up easily and probably much more but on my engi I cleanse Guardian burns so easily. It even auto cleanses for a boon. Poor guys. Thats higher stacks but not specifically better than my burns. Most cleanses do 1 or 2 conditions. In a single opening rotation a real condition engi (not just running FT) can have confusion bleed blind poison and burn up. Its not easy to cleanse.

Fighting eles. You avoid the fields and stunbreak and the ele burn application is quite light. Compared to engi with a solid 8 stacks direct to a player with 5 of those in a cleve.
Yes he can get some silly burn numbers but ours is tons easier to apply and a lot more consistent.

So you have a choice.
High burns with no mask (guardian)
High Field burns with limited direct application(Ele)
Medium direct burns with condition masking (Engi)

Engi comes out pretty well imo but again im not using FT.

I hear you. I hate FT, I think it’s a really lame kit. Only reason I use it is for IA. The blind and knockback is nice too but damage wise, I never liked FT

Its weird that its not great for burns
After all its a flamethrower… heh

I love FT… but not for its burns.