scrapper meh/roaming build?

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Posted by: RodOfDeath.5247

RodOfDeath.5247

With the recent update I was excited to finally try out scrapper. I have to say….I’m not that into it. It feels like a guard overall and doesn’t fell like engineer I guess.

So…..I want to try roaming with engi. I’ve been using a simple condition build I came up with buy was wondering if anyone had some recommendations on roaming builds they use. I do ok with my current build, but always willing to try something new!

Thanks!

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Posted by: archmagus.7249

archmagus.7249

With this latest update, I’ve been finding it difficult to roam. We just don’t have the survivability needed for roaming anymore.

That being said, this is the build I use for roaming, though i might be going back to static discharge engineer.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFASncoCFpitbB2XBEqilJji+vr79OsfSmwS8ZOgAA-T1BCABZp8rS1fyXHQjKB9Z/hLuAAA8AACAgAczbGAO6RP6RP6R7oH9oH9oHtUA+I0C-w

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Posted by: RodOfDeath.5247

RodOfDeath.5247

thank you arch!

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Posted by: archmagus.7249

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Still, it’s probably a good idea to avoid mesmers. Daredevils are a big problem, though. But, I’m pretty sure that’s not just engineer. I’ve seen daredevils one shot pretty much everyone. The only class which I’ve seen able to go one one one with a daredevil is a tempest.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

Still, it’s probably a good idea to avoid mesmers. Daredevils are a big problem, though. But, I’m pretty sure that’s not just engineer. I’ve seen daredevils one shot pretty much everyone. The only class which I’ve seen able to go one one one with a daredevil is a tempest.

Eh what? Daredevils are increadibly easy and soft targets for roaming scrappers, they have zero chance chance of winning unless they are incredibly good and perfect at permastealth bursting. Chronos are often much trickier targets due to blocks and crap. In my experience Tempest are only a real threat on a specific tanky healer build but that’s gonna be a 5+ minute slugfest with a decent scrapper probably ending up on top anyway.

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Posted by: archmagus.7249

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Still, it’s probably a good idea to avoid mesmers. Daredevils are a big problem, though. But, I’m pretty sure that’s not just engineer. I’ve seen daredevils one shot pretty much everyone. The only class which I’ve seen able to go one one one with a daredevil is a tempest.

Eh what? Daredevils are increadibly easy and soft targets for roaming scrappers, they have zero chance chance of winning unless they are incredibly good and perfect at permastealth bursting. Chronos are often much trickier targets due to blocks and crap. In my experience Tempest are only a real threat on a specific tanky healer build but that’s gonna be a 5+ minute slugfest with a decent scrapper probably ending up on top anyway.

The problem I have is them coming out of nowhere and hitting me with 30k crits. It’s insane.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

Still, it’s probably a good idea to avoid mesmers. Daredevils are a big problem, though. But, I’m pretty sure that’s not just engineer. I’ve seen daredevils one shot pretty much everyone. The only class which I’ve seen able to go one one one with a daredevil is a tempest.

Eh what? Daredevils are increadibly easy and soft targets for roaming scrappers, they have zero chance chance of winning unless they are incredibly good and perfect at permastealth bursting. Chronos are often much trickier targets due to blocks and crap. In my experience Tempest are only a real threat on a specific tanky healer build but that’s gonna be a 5+ minute slugfest with a decent scrapper probably ending up on top anyway.

The problem I have is them coming out of nowhere and hitting me with 30k crits. It’s insane.

Sure they can be nasty if you dont counter quickly, but if they hit you for 30K on the 2500 toughness build with bulwark slotted then you are obviously doing something wrong.

I do not really see the build you posted as suitable for roaming, to me that is more like a zerg frontliner. 2500 toughness is obviously doing zero good or you wouldnt be complaining about zerker damage and the hammer is a mediocre roaming weapon choice, way too easily kited by other roamer builds. Grab double pistols, change alchemy to firearms and convert about 1K toughness to condi damage and you might have a build could start taking on dd/thief roamers cause melee power tanks aint ever gonna beat them reliably.

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Posted by: archmagus.7249

archmagus.7249

Still, it’s probably a good idea to avoid mesmers. Daredevils are a big problem, though. But, I’m pretty sure that’s not just engineer. I’ve seen daredevils one shot pretty much everyone. The only class which I’ve seen able to go one one one with a daredevil is a tempest.

Eh what? Daredevils are increadibly easy and soft targets for roaming scrappers, they have zero chance chance of winning unless they are incredibly good and perfect at permastealth bursting. Chronos are often much trickier targets due to blocks and crap. In my experience Tempest are only a real threat on a specific tanky healer build but that’s gonna be a 5+ minute slugfest with a decent scrapper probably ending up on top anyway.

The problem I have is them coming out of nowhere and hitting me with 30k crits. It’s insane.

Sure they can be nasty if you dont counter quickly, but if they hit you for 30K on the 2500 toughness build with bulwark slotted then you are obviously doing something wrong.

I do not really see the build you posted as suitable for roaming, to me that is more like a zerg frontliner. 2500 toughness is obviously doing zero good or you wouldnt be complaining about zerker damage and the hammer is a mediocre roaming weapon choice, way too easily kited by other roamer builds. Grab double pistols, change alchemy to firearms and convert about 1K toughness to condi damage and you might have a build could start taking on dd/thief roamers cause melee power tanks aint ever gonna beat them reliably.

The problem I’ve been having with condition builds is they just don’t stack up fast enough, and I’ve run into a lot of reapers with plague signet.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

The problem I’ve been having with condition builds is they just don’t stack up fast enough, and I’ve run into a lot of reapers with plague signet.

Reapers is a far trickier nut than dd to crack when you bring a condie, true. The key to winning against them isnt too complicated though – you dont stack up condis fast, you hold your cds. Slow burn with constant pressure and slugging it out will win the the day. The most dangerous reaper is actually not one at full hp, its one at low hp and full rs. That’s when they go all out and you counter them with everything you got.

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Posted by: RodOfDeath.5247

RodOfDeath.5247

The problem I’ve been having with condition builds is they just don’t stack up fast enough, and I’ve run into a lot of reapers with plague signet.

Reapers is a far trickier nut than dd to crack when you bring a condie, true. The key to winning against them isnt too complicated though – you dont stack up condis fast, you hold your cds. Slow burn with constant pressure and slugging it out will win the the day. The most dangerous reaper is actually not one at full hp, its one at low hp and full rs. That’s when they go all out and you counter them with everything you got.

I’m struggling right now against reapers. I feel like they have 5% death shroud left no matter how much pressure, condis, dps I hit them with. I do manage to stay alive quite a long time now outnumbered but I feel like I’m hanging around 1600-1700 condi damage. I did spec to have poison, bleeds, and fire duration increased so I guess that’s the trade off.

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Posted by: EremiteAngel.9765

EremiteAngel.9765

As a reaper main solo roamer, I roam with a build that gives me an easy time against most condi opponents.

My advise for my opponents is:

Do a condi burst and spam all your evades, blocks, invulnerabilities to prevent the reaper from transferring your condis back to you.

Reapers eat most condi opponents because they transfer your condis back to you so it becomes Reaper damage + your condi damage = you die fast.
So preemptive actions against them transferring your condi back to you is necessary.

Of course, watch out for the Reaper if he is using Consume conditions which has a long cast time and is easily interruptible. So save one interrupt for this.

Do this right and you have a good chance of winning.

Scourge Demo Weekend Roaming Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsby6rYkxS8

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Posted by: RodOfDeath.5247

RodOfDeath.5247

As a reaper main solo roamer, I roam with a build that gives me an easy time against most condi opponents.

My advise for my opponents is:

Do a condi burst and spam all your evades, blocks, invulnerabilities to prevent the reaper from transferring your condis back to you.

Reapers eat most condi opponents because they transfer your condis back to you so it becomes Reaper damage + your condi damage = you die fast.
So preemptive actions against them transferring your condi back to you is necessary.

Of course, watch out for the Reaper if he is using Consume conditions which has a long cast time and is easily interruptible. So save one interrupt for this.

Do this right and you have a good chance of winning.

Thanks for the advice! I’m still learning engi in general, lots of fun toys!