Guild Wars 2

am i reading the tool tip on it wrong because its says “Toss Elixir B to grant Fury, might, retaliation, and swiftness to allies.” yet the allies i toss it on are only get one buff.

I think it’s a typo that should read OR instead of AND. It’s like this for every other toss.

oh … that is disappointing

yup it’s an OR, yup it’s disappointing but if you got cleansing formula 409 (elixir cure 1 condition) or HGH (elixir gives 20 seconds of might) then it’s not that bad.

Actually all of you are wrong.

I have tested this extensively in every way.
This is how it works;

Toss Elixir B grants 2 random boons from its list. So it can give fury + swiftness, or even swiftness + swiftness (then duration simply stacks and is very long). It also has small chance of granting 3rd (!) boon from the list for ~2-3 seconds.

Toss Elixir H for example grants only 1 boon but as B it also has a small chance to grant 2nd boon for 2-3 sec. So you might get Regeneration + protection for 2-3 seconds.

Because of this the entire tooltips should be changed.

Toss Elixir B should be something along the lines:
Grants two random boons to allies in the target area. Has small chance of granting third short term boon.

EDIT:

it gets even better if you take HGH because then Toss B as 3 guarenteed boons and chance for 4th. If you take cleansing formula 409 it becomes even better.

Alchemy 30, longer durations elixirs (which seem to work after modifiers from runes etc) and 2 runes of water and monk and you are looking at very long boons.

Then your tests are stupid, seeing as how I can toss it on myself right now and gain only one of the buffs. This is sad to me seeing as how it worked as the tooltip stated in the BWE early on. I even built my entire setup around it keeping my boons up 24/7 in pvp and now I can’t because of the tooltip being wrong. It always gives ONE buff out of the list, if you’re getting some other buff from it other than the one its from traits or something else nearby.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Toss_Elixir_B

Bug.
-Unlike the description of the skill, this grants allies in the area one of the above buffs randomly instead of all.
-While the skill lists the duration of Might as 30s, it is in fact only 10s.

i can’t test this now myself but maybe tonight.

The might on the skill seems to be working just fine, except when I’m using Juggernaut. I’ll have my perma 7 stacks of might with Jugger, then chug an elixir B and get no more stacks.

Arklain.6429:

Then your tests are stupid, seeing as how I can toss it on myself right now and gain only one of the buffs. This is sad to me seeing as how it worked as the tooltip stated in the BWE early on. I even built my entire setup around it keeping my boons up 24/7 in pvp and now I can’t because of the tooltip being wrong. It always gives ONE buff out of the list, if you’re getting some other buff from it other than the one its from traits or something else nearby.

Sorry but then you have no idea how it works. Come to Ruins of Surmia Heart of he Mists and i will gladly show you it works the way i described it. Just because you have no idea about someting doesn’t make my tests “stupid”. Your comment on the other hand was stupid.

Read again my post and maybe you will grasp it. It can give you 2 times the same buff.

Killyox.3950:

Arklain.6429:

Then your tests are stupid, seeing as how I can toss it on myself right now and gain only one of the buffs. This is sad to me seeing as how it worked as the tooltip stated in the BWE early on. I even built my entire setup around it keeping my boons up 24/7 in pvp and now I can’t because of the tooltip being wrong. It always gives ONE buff out of the list, if you’re getting some other buff from it other than the one its from traits or something else nearby.

Sorry but then you have no idea how it works. Come to Ruins of Surmia Heart of he Mists and i will gladly show you it works the way i described it. Just because you have no idea about someting doesn’t make my tests “stupid”. Your comment on the other hand was stupid.

Read again my post and maybe you will grasp it. It can give you 2 times the same buff.

yeah everyone is wrong except you =D cool story bro

CptCosmic.3156:

Killyox.3950:

Arklain.6429:

Then your tests are stupid, seeing as how I can toss it on myself right now and gain only one of the buffs. This is sad to me seeing as how it worked as the tooltip stated in the BWE early on. I even built my entire setup around it keeping my boons up 24/7 in pvp and now I can’t because of the tooltip being wrong. It always gives ONE buff out of the list, if you’re getting some other buff from it other than the one its from traits or something else nearby.

Sorry but then you have no idea how it works. Come to Ruins of Surmia Heart of he Mists and i will gladly show you it works the way i described it. Just because you have no idea about someting doesn’t make my tests “stupid”. Your comment on the other hand was stupid.

Read again my post and maybe you will grasp it. It can give you 2 times the same buff.

yeah everyone is wrong except you =D cool story bro

EDIT:

oh lol, they patched it. Must’ve been files today.

i did report it with bug report but heh, that was fast

EDIT2: aha i seem to have found a way to replicate it, seems like a problem with certain trait.

OK

This is how it goes (clearly a bug)

Take in Alchemy T2 Potent Elixirs trait, now Toss Elixir B gives 2 boons (can give twice the same boon)

Killyox.3950:

CptCosmic.3156:

Killyox.3950:

Arklain.6429:

Then your tests are stupid, seeing as how I can toss it on myself right now and gain only one of the buffs. This is sad to me seeing as how it worked as the tooltip stated in the BWE early on. I even built my entire setup around it keeping my boons up 24/7 in pvp and now I can’t because of the tooltip being wrong. It always gives ONE buff out of the list, if you’re getting some other buff from it other than the one its from traits or something else nearby.

Sorry but then you have no idea how it works. Come to Ruins of Surmia Heart of he Mists and i will gladly show you it works the way i described it. Just because you have no idea about someting doesn’t make my tests “stupid”. Your comment on the other hand was stupid.

Read again my post and maybe you will grasp it. It can give you 2 times the same buff.

yeah everyone is wrong except you =D cool story bro

EDIT:

oh lol, they patched it. Must’ve been files today.

i did report it with bug report but heh, that was fast

Or, it was never an issue?

I remember running with elixir B while just exploring zones for the swiftness, and constantly tossing elixir B on cooldown and not once did I see what you described.

I remember it working that way during the beta, but never at launch.

Are you sure you aren’t just remembering back to the beta?

Lyuben.2613:

Killyox.3950:

CptCosmic.3156:

Killyox.3950:

Arklain.6429:

Then your tests are stupid, seeing as how I can toss it on myself right now and gain only one of the buffs. This is sad to me seeing as how it worked as the tooltip stated in the BWE early on. I even built my entire setup around it keeping my boons up 24/7 in pvp and now I can’t because of the tooltip being wrong. It always gives ONE buff out of the list, if you’re getting some other buff from it other than the one its from traits or something else nearby.

Sorry but then you have no idea how it works. Come to Ruins of Surmia Heart of he Mists and i will gladly show you it works the way i described it. Just because you have no idea about someting doesn’t make my tests “stupid”. Your comment on the other hand was stupid.

Read again my post and maybe you will grasp it. It can give you 2 times the same buff.

yeah everyone is wrong except you =D cool story bro

EDIT:

oh lol, they patched it. Must’ve been files today.

i did report it with bug report but heh, that was fast

Or, it was never an issue?

I remember running with elixir B while just exploring zones for the swiftness, and constantly tossing elixir B on cooldown and not once did I see what you described.

I remember it working that way during the beta, but never at launch.

Are you sure you aren’t just remembering back to the beta?

Nope.

Check EDIT3

Take Potent Elixirs trait (alchemy T2), now your Toss Elixir B gives 2 boons (can give 2 times same boon, but then duration is doubled)

Toss Elixir H also gets one random short boon with Potent Elixirs taken

Killyox.3950:

Lyuben.2613:

Killyox.3950:

CptCosmic.3156:

Killyox.3950:

Arklain.6429:

Then your tests are stupid, seeing as how I can toss it on myself right now and gain only one of the buffs. This is sad to me seeing as how it worked as the tooltip stated in the BWE early on. I even built my entire setup around it keeping my boons up 24/7 in pvp and now I can’t because of the tooltip being wrong. It always gives ONE buff out of the list, if you’re getting some other buff from it other than the one its from traits or something else nearby.

Sorry but then you have no idea how it works. Come to Ruins of Surmia Heart of he Mists and i will gladly show you it works the way i described it. Just because you have no idea about someting doesn’t make my tests “stupid”. Your comment on the other hand was stupid.

Read again my post and maybe you will grasp it. It can give you 2 times the same buff.

yeah everyone is wrong except you =D cool story bro

EDIT:

oh lol, they patched it. Must’ve been files today.

i did report it with bug report but heh, that was fast

Or, it was never an issue?

I remember running with elixir B while just exploring zones for the swiftness, and constantly tossing elixir B on cooldown and not once did I see what you described.

I remember it working that way during the beta, but never at launch.

Are you sure you aren’t just remembering back to the beta?

Nope.

Check EDIT3

Take Potent Elixir trait, now your Toss Elixir B gives 2 boons (can give 2 times same boon, but then duration is doubled)

Then that’s an issue with a trait, not the skill itself.

I don’t see how a broken trait is relevant to a discussion of toss elixir B.

Lyuben.2613:

Killyox.3950:

Lyuben.2613:

Killyox.3950:

CptCosmic.3156:

Killyox.3950:

Arklain.6429:

Then your tests are stupid, seeing as how I can toss it on myself right now and gain only one of the buffs. This is sad to me seeing as how it worked as the tooltip stated in the BWE early on. I even built my entire setup around it keeping my boons up 24/7 in pvp and now I can’t because of the tooltip being wrong. It always gives ONE buff out of the list, if you’re getting some other buff from it other than the one its from traits or something else nearby.

Sorry but then you have no idea how it works. Come to Ruins of Surmia Heart of he Mists and i will gladly show you it works the way i described it. Just because you have no idea about someting doesn’t make my tests “stupid”. Your comment on the other hand was stupid.

Read again my post and maybe you will grasp it. It can give you 2 times the same buff.

yeah everyone is wrong except you =D cool story bro

EDIT:

oh lol, they patched it. Must’ve been files today.

i did report it with bug report but heh, that was fast

Or, it was never an issue?

I remember running with elixir B while just exploring zones for the swiftness, and constantly tossing elixir B on cooldown and not once did I see what you described.

I remember it working that way during the beta, but never at launch.

Are you sure you aren’t just remembering back to the beta?

Nope.

Check EDIT3

Take Potent Elixir trait, now your Toss Elixir B gives 2 boons (can give 2 times same boon, but then duration is doubled)

Then that’s an issue with a trait, not the skill itself.

I don’t see how a broken trait is relevant to a discussion of toss elixir B.

Skill is broken too because Might it gives is short and either description is messed or mechanic.

Same like increased range for rifle/elixir gun trait reduces Bleed duration on elixir gun #1 by 1 second, down from 4 to 3 or how you can use kits under effect of elixir S.

Looking for all possible bugs with engie :P

Killyox.3950:

Lyuben.2613:

Killyox.3950:

Lyuben.2613:

Killyox.3950:

CptCosmic.3156:

Killyox.3950:

Arklain.6429:

Then your tests are stupid, seeing as how I can toss it on myself right now and gain only one of the buffs. This is sad to me seeing as how it worked as the tooltip stated in the BWE early on. I even built my entire setup around it keeping my boons up 24/7 in pvp and now I can’t because of the tooltip being wrong. It always gives ONE buff out of the list, if you’re getting some other buff from it other than the one its from traits or something else nearby.

Sorry but then you have no idea how it works. Come to Ruins of Surmia Heart of he Mists and i will gladly show you it works the way i described it. Just because you have no idea about someting doesn’t make my tests “stupid”. Your comment on the other hand was stupid.

Read again my post and maybe you will grasp it. It can give you 2 times the same buff.

yeah everyone is wrong except you =D cool story bro

EDIT:

oh lol, they patched it. Must’ve been files today.

i did report it with bug report but heh, that was fast

Or, it was never an issue?

I remember running with elixir B while just exploring zones for the swiftness, and constantly tossing elixir B on cooldown and not once did I see what you described.

I remember it working that way during the beta, but never at launch.

Are you sure you aren’t just remembering back to the beta?

Nope.

Check EDIT3

Take Potent Elixir trait, now your Toss Elixir B gives 2 boons (can give 2 times same boon, but then duration is doubled)

Then that’s an issue with a trait, not the skill itself.

I don’t see how a broken trait is relevant to a discussion of toss elixir B.

Skill is broken too because Might it gives is short and either description is messed or mechanic.

Same like increased range for rifle/elixir gun trait reduces Bleed duration on elixir gun #1 by 1 second, down from 4 to 3 or how you can use kits under effect of elixir S.

Looking for all possible bugs with engie :P

Oh yeah, I agree that its broken.

So far I’ve noticed then, on topic of bugs:

Big ole bomb is not a blast finisher at any stage of its use.
Elixir S does not benefit from fast acting elixirs (the tooltip changes, but the cooldown is still 60s)
Explosive shot suggests AoE bleeding. It does not do so.
Numerous issues with kits.
Elite supplies only affecting supply crate. (I think they just added the stuff about elixir X and mortar without actually doing anything)
Mine field does not benefit from ingenuity.
Dropping and picking up turrets ASAP, puts them on full cooldown.
Med kit does not stow when pressed again.
Turrets sometimes just randomly disappear.

And underwater, most tooltips are wrong basically but too many to list.

Explosive shot no longer aoe bleeding is a change from the beta. The tooltip is wrong.

Andazeus.1928:

Explosive shot no longer aoe bleeding is a change from the beta. The tooltip is wrong.

What perplexes me though, they changed the tooltip at the same time they removed the AoE bleed, yet kept the description.

That makes no sense…

There is still lots of broken stuff with the engineer. Just like the situation with elixir b that was discussed here.