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Posted by: shockwave.1764

shockwave.1764

So I usually roll a 0/0/30/30/10 build with shaman amulet.

Then I’ll run Medkit, Bombs, and Elixir R but I can’t decide on using Tool Kit Flamethrower or Elixir gun.

What do you guys run?

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Posted by: Walorx.5129

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Don’t bring bombs. Just bring Elixir gun and toolkit/flamethrower and elixir R. Use toolkit if you’re looking to stay alive longer, or use flamethrower if you’re trying to get a decap/blind stomp.

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Posted by: Monadproxy.3489

Monadproxy.3489

why would he not bring bombs? based on the 30 points in inventions and his shaman amulet id assume he is running elixir infused bombs. If you are using p/p i would bring the flamethrower for the cc it brings, If p/s i would bring elixir gun. If you swap out med kit for turret, i would bring eg for the extra blast finisher

edit: I personally take elixir c instead of ft/eg because of how easily conditions eat through me.

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Posted by: shockwave.1764

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why would he not bring bombs? based on the 30 points in inventions and his shaman amulet id assume he is running elixir infused bombs. If you are using p/p i would bring the flamethrower for the cc it brings, If p/s i would bring elixir gun. If you swap out med kit for turret, i would bring eg for the extra blast finisher

edit: I personally take elixir c instead of ft/eg because of how easily conditions eat through me.

Actually I’m not running Elixir infused bombs, I feel like the 2xx healing per bomb is not worth it especially when im kiting since it doesn’t heal me. and thanks for the suggestions

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Posted by: shockwave.1764

shockwave.1764

Don’t bring bombs. Just bring Elixir gun and toolkit/flamethrower and elixir R. Use toolkit if you’re looking to stay alive longer, or use flamethrower if you’re trying to get a decap/blind stomp.

<- My bunker spec for top tier tPvP

yeah I’ve seen that build, while I didn’t want to copy it I definitely used it as a reference, I’ll try ditching bombs and see how it works though.

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

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I would use elixir gun with such a build, depends on your preferences though.

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

Yamsandjams.3267

Don’t bring bombs. Just bring Elixir gun and toolkit/flamethrower and elixir R. Use toolkit if you’re looking to stay alive longer, or use flamethrower if you’re trying to get a decap/blind stomp.

<- My bunker spec for top tier tPvP

I’m not sure about Svanir runes for tPvP bunkering. The invulnerability is nice, but you can have your point decapped during that time, which can be problematic for your team. A good bunker can survive, but also maintain control of the point. The video demonstration showed the ice block being relied upon quite regularly, so it’s possible it can hamper your purpose as a bunker. Mind you, one can argue it’s better than dying, which is a good argument.

Speaking of bunkering, the video didn’t actually show much bunkering in the normal sense. All the fights took place on the enemy node instead of defending the player’s own nodes. In this sense, it was much more effective at distracting/harassing the enemy team than it was at defending nodes. The Svanir runes would be much better for this purpose since you’re not expecting to cap the node in the first place, and the invulnerability only increases the level of harassment that can be provided.

I think elixir H would be good with this build, although it would probably mean sacrificing the perma vigor, so that might just be too disadvantageous. Very intelligent use of elixir C would be quite important since completely relying on automated response will probably be disadvantageous in the long run.

Elixir S would probably also be worth consideration, although elixir R works nicely with the lower cooldown and extra stamina.

I’ve tried something somewhat similar to this before, but I think I might give this a go sometime to see if it’s up my alley. Had to take a break from bunkering because I just wanted to kill people.

Also, elite supplies is fairly underrated, especially with supply crate. Nice to see it being used.

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Posted by: Monadproxy.3489

Monadproxy.3489

why would he not bring bombs? based on the 30 points in inventions and his shaman amulet id assume he is running elixir infused bombs. If you are using p/p i would bring the flamethrower for the cc it brings, If p/s i would bring elixir gun. If you swap out med kit for turret, i would bring eg for the extra blast finisher

edit: I personally take elixir c instead of ft/eg because of how easily conditions eat through me.

Actually I’m not running Elixir infused bombs, I feel like the 2xx healing per bomb is not worth it especially when im kiting since it doesn’t heal me. and thanks for the suggestions

oh. I assumed you wouldn’t be kitting as most bunkers tend to sit in the cap point and force the enemies to eat their bombs. Out of curiosity, what traits are you taking in inventions?

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Posted by: shockwave.1764

shockwave.1764

why would he not bring bombs? based on the 30 points in inventions and his shaman amulet id assume he is running elixir infused bombs. If you are using p/p i would bring the flamethrower for the cc it brings, If p/s i would bring elixir gun. If you swap out med kit for turret, i would bring eg for the extra blast finisher

edit: I personally take elixir c instead of ft/eg because of how easily conditions eat through me.

Actually I’m not running Elixir infused bombs, I feel like the 2xx healing per bomb is not worth it especially when im kiting since it doesn’t heal me. and thanks for the suggestions

oh. I assumed you wouldn’t be kitting as most bunkers tend to sit in the cap point and force the enemies to eat their bombs. Out of curiosity, what traits are you taking in inventions?

I usually run around the node, to avoid AoE, nevertheless the healing from bombs is negligible. I’m running I, VII, IX

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Posted by: aydenunited.5729

aydenunited.5729

If my primary job is holding home point, I usually prefer taking Toolkit and focusing on a vigor build with Gear Shield on short cooldown with Power Wrench trait.

If my job is keeping middle point or counter-capping far point, Elixir Gun.

I always carry Elixir C and Elixir R. Elixir C is very underestimated as a bunker, especially since we lost our condition removals via Kit Refinement.

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