50% nerf to Vigor - not Serious?

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Posted by: JakHammer.7094

JakHammer.7094

When I read that there was a game wide hard nerf to Vigor, reducing the buff to Endurance gain from 100% to 50% I expected to see a LOT of wailing and moans, especially from guards as it is a further nerf to selfless daring, which has already been hit hard twice, iirc.

But I don’t seem to see any threads about this anywhere.

I thought dodging, with or without a dodge roll effects, was a critical and defining skill in the GW2 Combat system, and that a major nerf to dodge availability would be important. What have I missed?

This based on this quote from the Specialization Changes thread.

•Vigor: Decreased the endurance regeneration rate from 100% to 50%.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/June-23-Specialization-Changes/first

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Posted by: Asmodal.6489

Asmodal.6489

probably because it hurts and benefits all classes alike. It does not change the fact htat we have no skill that evades.

If anything I think this guards are hurt less by it in comparison to other classes because we have many other option to avoid single attacks on demand without dodging.

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Posted by: savacli.8172

savacli.8172

In PvE, at least, a lot of our DPS build don’t have access to vigor anyways. So a change like this doesn’t affect us at all.

PvP/WvW will likely see an impact, but as Asmodal mentioned this is a change that’s global to all classes.

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Posted by: Lumines.3916

Lumines.3916

Side note: one of the positive changes for the upcoming patch affects Selfless Daring, long overdue I say!!

Selfless Daring: The end of your dodge roll heals nearby allies.
This trait has been un-split and now heals for the same amount in competitive PvP as it does elsewhere in the game.

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Posted by: GreyWraith.8394

GreyWraith.8394

When I read that there was a game wide hard nerf to Vigor, reducing the buff to Endurance gain from 100% to 50% I expected to see a LOT of wailing and moans, especially from guards as it is a further nerf to selfless daring, which has already been hit hard twice, iirc.

But I don’t seem to see any threads about this anywhere.

I thought dodging, with or without a dodge roll effects, was a critical and defining skill in the GW2 Combat system, and that a major nerf to dodge availability would be important. What have I missed?

This based on this quote from the Specialization Changes thread.

•Vigor: Decreased the endurance regeneration rate from 100% to 50%.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/June-23-Specialization-Changes/first

  • It’s less obvious than things like reduced damage modifiers.
  • It may hurt, but not more than other classes.
  • Evade-for-days thieves are most impacted.

I’m also curious about how/if the 30% boon duration (or condi duration) we are losing from trait lines will be made up in base stats or if we will need gear to make up the difference. A lot of professions stand to lose there, but not much QQ about it yet.

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Posted by: perko.8309

perko.8309

I’m also curious about how/if the 30% boon duration (or condi duration) we are losing from trait lines will be made up in base stats or if we will need gear to make up the difference. A lot of professions stand to lose there, but not much QQ about it yet.

I think it’s all about expectations. I expected it to be gone and … well … it is. Considering they do have a few places where they left some in (+20% Boon duration in Nature Magic line of Ranger, for ex.), I’m pretty sure it’s intentional. If you don’t have it now, you won’t have it come Tues.

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Posted by: JakHammer.7094

JakHammer.7094

Oh &*%@^%. I forgot/did not consider the 30% boon duration being gone.

And trying to add it back with gear will probably be a total fail, unless there is a dramatic change in boon duration gear choices, like putting it back on Celestial.

Boon Duration was gutted a long while back.
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