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Posted by: PlayerX.7138

PlayerX.7138

(If you’re coming in here to tell me that i should avoid DPS guardian and that support guardians are the only guardians..

nogoaway.)

I have a full zerker DPS guardian atm but some friends of mine and i have noticed that basically i gust of wind could completely destroy me. I have a nice build for DPS so that’s decent atleast but what i would like to ask is if i should instead of running full zerk. Have mixture of stats that it’ll increase my survivability while at the same time not lowering me DPS too much(I don’t need to be super uber tanky but i just need to not be the first one to die.)

I was thinking maybe i could do Assassins armor w/ Soilders trinkets and/or weapons but i’m open for any other combos. It also just might be a L2P problem from my end but i’m new to DPS guardians but not new to guardians in general

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Posted by: Booms.2594

Booms.2594

you can run my glass build which is 2/6/6/0/0 with full zerk (or 0/6/6/1/1 for more survivability). its probably the best thing you would want if you want really high dps.

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Posted by: PlayerX.7138

PlayerX.7138

you can run my glass build which is 2/6/6/0/0 with full zerk (or 0/6/6/1/1 for more survivability). its probably the best thing you would want if you want really high dps.

I’ll try this but i’ve also made a “build” along the lines of what i was thinking http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-8;9;9;9;0ET;0O1;049A;457-6cX04;1udbTudbTc-kJ;0i2H;266765b5b6b461sVGs0V;5k06Rk06R;9;9;9;9;7V8-6g

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Posted by: Vv W.7821

Vv W.7821

Whenever I go glass cannon on a guardian I take the heal on meditation trait, use a bunch of meditations, and never fight while outnumbered. It’s not the best way to do things, but it sounds like you’re determined enough to make it work.

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Posted by: Lucentfir.7430

Lucentfir.7430

Just curious are you playing in a PVP/WvW enviornment or a PVE environment?

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Posted by: PlayerX.7138

PlayerX.7138

Oh yea i forgot to state that it’s for PvE(Dungeons and maaaaaaybe fractals when there isn’t a support guard online and i don’t have to swap to my healing build)

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Posted by: Charak.9761

Charak.9761

4/5/0/0/5 is the PvE build, you don’t get hit because the build revolves around keeping target blinded

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR8dl0ApUo1CxVI8DNR8QlbK+i2+BtQlBQDA-TBTBAB6phJw9HySZwDHQAKV/xMlgRcEAuSJDWKlwT3wCPABAuYBBAOA46AhAktFA-e

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Posted by: PlayerX.7138

PlayerX.7138

4/5/0/0/5 is the PvE build, you don’t get hit because the build revolves around keeping target blinded

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR8dl0ApUo1CxVI8DNR8QlbK+i2+BtQlBQDA-TBTBAB6phJw9HySZwDHQAKV/xMlgRcEAuSJDWKlwT3wCPABAuYBBAOA46AhAktFA-e

Like i said i already have a build(That one just so happens to be the one i’m using :P) i was just asking if the stats are viable to use and would not decrease my DPS alot

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Posted by: Vargamonth.2047

Vargamonth.2047

Soldier/Knight armor can give you a bit of survival if needed (for example, if that’s the difference between being oneshoted or not ). If that’s not enough and you are still struggling to survive, either you need a bit more of practice, or your group is lacking in average DPS, exposing you to an attrition enviroment for what the build isn’t probably the best option (you could check hammer builds if that’s the case).

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Posted by: Stars.2179

Stars.2179

Like i said i already have a build(That one just so happens to be the one i’m using :P) i was just asking if the stats are viable to use and would not decrease my DPS alot

You’re just in luck for a treat. The following is the spreadsheet I made for the 4/5/0/0/5 build with splitting points into defense. In this case into vitality but you can also split it into toughness as well.

For full ascended set, you have 2647 points to spare between primary and secondary stats with any primary + secondary <= 1902

In the spread sheet, the first column represents the values you would take away from the total 2647 to put into either Vitality or Toughness, The second column represents how many points left, then the next three columns (Power, Precision, Ferocity) is the recommendation to maximize damage with the remain points. Simplified Damage is the same as Effective Power if you’ve ever used Nike’s Calculator or used Obal’s guide. And the last column represents the percentage of that set up compare to full maximized DPS of the 4/5/0/0/5 build.

Here it is

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P8QbymPuZ3hopQCcL5DYBeBk_t1V1OJ1GZic9zUN18o/edit?usp=sharing

Enjoy!

Oh something to note: If you want those points to be vitality, some of the split stats are currently UNATTAINBLE until ANET releases the Power/Precision/Vitalty combo as well as Jewelry crafting.

Also the chart cuts at 745 points (one full minor stat set) into defense, because below that, your damage is crap.

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Posted by: DesertRose.2031

DesertRose.2031

Berserker is best if most or everyone of your teams use it, too; if you’re are the only one mobs might die too slow so you’ll eventually get downed.

If that doesn’t help go Hammer, 5/5/0/4/0 or 3/5/0/4/2 Hammer deals still a lot of damage, and permanent Protection is +50% armor.

If you’re still dying, try 3/5/0/6/0 or 3/3/0/6/2 Hammer and healing symbols.

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Posted by: Reborn.2934

Reborn.2934

(If you’re coming in here to tell me that i should avoid DPS guardian and that support guardians are the only guardians..

nogoaway.)

I have a full zerker DPS guardian atm but some friends of mine and i have noticed that basically i gust of wind could completely destroy me. I have a nice build for DPS so that’s decent atleast but what i would like to ask is if i should instead of running full zerk. Have mixture of stats that it’ll increase my survivability while at the same time not lowering me DPS too much(I don’t need to be super uber tanky but i just need to not be the first one to die.)

I was thinking maybe i could do Assassins armor w/ Soilders trinkets and/or weapons but i’m open for any other combos. It also just might be a L2P problem from my end but i’m new to DPS guardians but not new to guardians in general

it is not the stats so much , but what attacks you have to deal . every boss and fight in pve is different and you must know what attacks they are doing .

for example . in pavilion the pyroxis doing fire chains and guardians + all other in the pt should use reflect skills , but bbb is doing condition damages and guardian should have high dps ( to kill fast the healing turret ) + remove conditions build to clean the conditions from all the pt .

so for pve fights learn first what attacks doing the boss and choose what utility + weapon / trait you need for every fight .

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Posted by: alamore.1974

alamore.1974

I’ve been running a zerker mediation build in spvp and having great success.

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

Thaddeus.4891

I’ve been running a zerker mediation build in spvp and having great success.

Ready before posting. He ask for PvE.

4/5/0/0/5 is the PvE build, you don’t get hit because the build revolves around keeping target blinded

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR8dl0ApUo1CxVI8DNR8QlbK+i2+BtQlBQDA-TBTBAB6phJw9HySZwDHQAKV/xMlgRcEAuSJDWKlwT3wCPABAuYBBAOA46AhAktFA-e

Like i said i already have a build(That one just so happens to be the one i’m using :P) i was just asking if the stats are viable to use and would not decrease my DPS alot

Well of course if you change all your zerker trinket for soldier trinket, that will decrease your DPS. Does will decrease it by a lot? It depend how you define a lot. It personal at this point since you need to get the ratio of offence/defence you feel comfortable. But, i’ll point one something. 3/6/0/0/5 is a 5-8% decrease in DPS from a 6/6/0/0/2 build. Not that bad since you get some survivability and a good amount of support to balance things out. You lose about 1-3% DPS by using Assassin gear with that build compare to zerker gear. And then you lose, don’t know how much DPS from using 6 soldier trinkets. At that point, ya your dps will be a lot less than It could be.

Have you tried a Hammer build? A 5/5/0/4/0 build with GS + Hammer will grant you as much DPS as much DPS as a 6/6/0/0/2, its a build that work perfectly with Assassin gear (not like GS + S/F), it build give you 2000hp from trait, superior aria will give you a reduce cooldown on your shout for more aegis (retreat) and the most important, it will give you constant protection while using your hammer. That a -33% incoming damage that will make you more resistant than your 6 soldier trinket, while sacrificing non of your DPS.

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Posted by: maha.7902

maha.7902

Just skim read, but if this is for zerker guardian in dungeons then try this guide OP:

http://www.dtguilds.com/forum/m/6563292/viewthread/12501056-dnt-guardian-build-5914

It has a few variations that you can go with along with detailed discussion on how to play the build so you won’t be eating the dirt.

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Posted by: Lurock Turoth.9085

Lurock Turoth.9085

Honestly I use my full zerk wvw build in dungeons without any issues whatsoever (2/2/6/0/4) traveler runes, just blind what I can and block the rest!

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