Guild Wars 2

While condition damage is arguably negligible in PvE and for the most part ignored as a Guardian, especially in PvP. I had an interesting thought on AE damage with the guard.

Two traits that I don’t see a lot of people talk about are Permeating Wrath and Supreme Justice. These cause AE burning around you when Virtue of Justice triggers instead of single target, and reduces the hit to proc to four hits instead of five.

Most of our AEs can hit up to five targets per a hit. Staff 1 and symbols to be exact. So with Permeating Wrath you would now cause a burn tick per each tick of symbol with 4-5 targets in range, or with each auto attack on staff.

Played around with it in mists on the cluster of target dummies and it is interesting to say the least, but probably is only useful as a farming build. You can symbol and whirling wrath to quickly stack around 5-10 seconds of burning on everything around you in two moves, but still you need to wait 5-10 seconds to do that damage, versus power builds that can kill on hit.

Was just an interesting side thought that maybe someone would like to flesh out into a real build. Maybe a support/ae build for WvW zergs? Boons and Burns

Just because I ran a quickly mashed together AE burn build in sPvP and had decent AE results when in groups and racked up 300 points cause I tagged so many people in the cluster I got credit for them all.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQJARWlUg6CXFSPEf4ES2DR6AVwqCxD2DNyjyIA

Survivability on it is horrible and can’t solo anyone at all, but does good AE damage. Needs a TON more work, but fun results if grouped.

(side topic: gw2skills.net got a website upgrade while I typed this, pretty nice. They have a pve and wvw option now! Always like the interface the most and now it has all the options. Also they seem to have gotten rid of the bad link errors with the forum so no need for tinyurl anymore!)

Never tried something similar so I’ll ask you: wouldn’t be better to use sw/torch? They both have a skill with multiple hits (sw3 and tor5) and will trigger justice more often than gs. Since Permeating Wrath burns the area around you might be good… I don’t know tho… I don’t have enough money to buy a condition set to test this in pve/wvw.

Yeah, not willing to dish out money to try it for real. Was just entertaining the idea.

Was thinking symbols because they continue to tick on AE as long as targets are in it. Sword would have to go through a full rotation to trigger 4-5 hits.

Torch seemed redundant since you are already getting burning from symbols, also torch only burns 3 targets at a time, so felt unbalanced. Also torch AE burning does not count towards virtue of justice procs, as it is a condition and not a physical hit. Torch 5 does though, but still only hits 3 targets at a time.

Hammer may be a good candidate since it reapplies symbols frequently.

Not saying the build is any good or what I did was optimal at all. Just my own personal thought process.

You can just run symbol DPS with Purging Flame for more damage and more survivability. There are just much better options than spec’ing completely into Virtues.
Here’s the link:
http://tinyurl.com/c3qp4nq

Actually I have gone through all your builds and tested them out to see which ones I like. Good info in there on your PvP builds post.

I was simply trying to do new things and see what we can come up with out of the norm. Threw the idea out there for others to play with if they wanted to and see what the community could come up with.

Permeating wrath is actually the highest dps boosting trait we get, IF we are fighting 3-5 targets that all stay clustered. More useful in PvE than WvW.

I’ve tried Supreme Justice before just for fun and it doesn’t make that much of a difference. The other traits are better for the slot instead, especially like what you said about soloing. The AE might be nicer though. I haven’t tried that yet.

I still like GW2BuildCraft better :p

Smite from scepter? Dump it in the middle of a zerg for maximum results.

Permeating Wrath burns the area around you. Staying outside of melee range with this trait it’s not so useful…. At least until friendly fire is implemented!!

mmmmmm friendly fire

I think gw2skills.net is just missing consumable buffs and they could be set. I do use a bit of both sites though depending on what I want to theory craft

I made an attempt at a burning build in PVP. The idea is pretty simple. You get 2 second duration from passive VoJ. I paired that with GS/Sword/focus. The auto attackas are very fast so you get almost permanent burning. You can go as far as doing the AOE damage with it as well.