Hey so do others agree that they should add an option for people who play Guardians to not show the Aegis effect. It just always having it over my shield is so ugly.
I do think they should re-work that spell effect. To me, it pretty much ruins shields with how it clips into them, and for a Guardian, that means pretty much that their shields are visually ruined, constantly, when out of combat.
Sure, I can agree on the fact that it is a visual cue, but when an effect pretty much ruins shield-appearances while active, that to me at least, says it is a terrible design. It’s also one of the most obvious cues in the game, with other boons not being as “in your face” as this one. It blocks one attack after all, and it is possible to activate at will as well, meaning your high damage attack can still be blocked even if you were looking for cues.
I’d be fine with the effect being as it is while there’s no shield equipped to the character. But I think it could use an alternative for when there is a shield in place, that isn’t so blatantly clipping and ruining the shield models. It’s one of the things I hate the most about the game. Silly as that may sound to those not sharing my point of view.
It’s an important visual cue for PvP, WvW. It probably needs to stay.
I don’t understand the idea behind this statement, it’s very redundant, you can still see the buff “Aegis” under the portrait, which is where you’ll be looking at for buffs, nobody will be looking at the guardian’s left arm to see if there’s that tiny glow beside the guardian himself when he’s taking pictures.
Also it doesn’t show when the character isn’t in his combat stance, so.. Yeah, this is kind of a redundant statement to do.
Yeah they idea of not having the visual effect while not in combat sounds good. after all it doesn’t matter what anything looks like in combat, It’s all about that skill.
It’s an important visual cue for PvP, WvW. It probably needs to stay.
I don’t understand the idea behind this statement, it’s very redundant, you can still see the buff “Aegis” under the portrait, which is where you’ll be looking at for buffs, nobody will be looking at the guardian’s left arm to see if there’s that tiny glow beside the guardian himself when he’s taking pictures.
Not completely true.
Lots of times I look to the opponent to see if he have the aegis up, as his buff-bar is completely full and clustered with virtues, buffs, food, and (in WvW) keep-buffs.
I’m trying out the new dance book and I HATE that Aegis is on while I’m dancing! I just want a toggle to turn it on or off -visually-, and sometimes I just want it to be off because it clashes with my armor. I like it sometimes, but not all the time, especially while I’m getting down!
So if its just for screen shot you want Aegis removed, the easy way to do so atm is just use the virtue get hit by something then run away and you have 40 secs before it will come back up.
and here are my armor sets on my guardian atm enjoy
Hey so do others agree that they should add an option for people who play Guardians to not show the Aegis effect. It just always having it over my shield is so ugly.
i agree 100% with this.
I dont need to see it, i look at my oponent buff anyway. Or at least give it another way to show. When i wield my greatsword it look bad
I certainly agree that something could/should be done about it. In a game where all the prestige is in LOOKS and weapon skins, it’s very disappointing to have very cool looking shields we earn through badges or tokens (Like the Guild Tower shield, which looks very silly with aegis), or even spending 600 gems on Braham’s shield just to have to look at how fugly aegis when it pops up. Braham’s shield makes a great example. Aegis clips through the skull, and it isn’t even centered properly.
Maybe having it only visible in combat (not when weapons are drawn out of combat) would be the best solution?
Only visible in combat would be great. This thread pops up weekly and that’s about the only good solution anyone has come to.
That’s a good idea. It still needs to be visible in combat. It’s one of the few boons that you can see from a distance. It’s very hard to see retaliation for instance.
You are all crazy! It is one of the best visuals for the guardian. I like it
and anyone who doesn’t should re-roll. GTFO! :p
It’s not that we don’t like the effect. It’s that you can’t even kittening see half of the kittening cool part of Flameseeker Prophecies while Aegis is up, and that it clips straight through the skull of the wolf in Braham’s shield on top of being misaligned, along with innumerable other absurdly awkward issues with other models. I’d like to e able to see the page turn when I pull out my legendary shield, but the entire point of owning it is ruined by Aegis covering it up.
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You are all crazy! It is one of the best visuals for the guardian. I like it
and anyone who doesn’t should re-roll. GTFO! :p
Nah, I’ve mained guardian since headstart and I want it only visible while in combat. It ruins screenshots and makes some shields look absolutely stupid because of the clipping.
Being able to turn off our auto-aegis would be enough for me. It’s not up that often while in combat anyway.
Being able to turn it off like helmets/shoulders/backpacks would be nice as well, but probably shouldn’t be available in pvp due to aforementioned reasons.
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It look amazing on mad moon shield but the biggest problem with shield on guardian is that the other offhands outshine it which is why i never use shield on my guardian.
I’m at the moment going for The Flameseeker Prophecies, I have fears how much Aegis will clip with it.
I have seen some videos of it, and it doesn’t look that bad, but it clips a little bit with the book.
I know what you mean. I thought the same exact thing when I was working on my shield, but overall I’m happy with it. It still kind of breaks my heart when someone see’s me with the shield and wants to see its effects, because all they see is a blue blob shield ruining it.
Having the option to turn off aegis outside of combat would be great, with not only shield, but with townclothes/dances as well.
I’m at the moment going for The Flameseeker Prophecies, I have fears how much Aegis will clip with it.
I have seen some videos of it, and it doesn’t look that bad, but it clips a little bit with the book.
I know what you mean. I thought the same exact thing when I was working on my shield, but overall I’m happy with it. It still kind of breaks my heart when someone see’s me with the shield and wants to see its effects, because all they see is a blue blob shield ruining it.
Having the option to turn off aegis outside of combat would be great, with not only shield, but with townclothes/dances as well.
One thing I can think of is that you should be able to click-remove boons, like you could do in World of Warcraft with buffs.
Even tough Aegis will appear again in 30 – 40 seconds it’s the only thing I can think of now that shouldn’t be too complicated to add.
Eh, yeh I know pretty and ugly is a big deal to GW people as GW has always been cosmetics focused. I don’t really care about the aegis animation though.
I hate this effect so badly… it clips trough shields, when you don’t have a shield it appears hovering over your arm clipping over other weapons like focus, torch, etc. and don’t get me started on two handed… personally i really hate it…
Just tossing my similar opinion into the mix. (I couldn’t find a thread newer than this one.) Perhaps a combat-only visual (or application) would be viable. Regardless, the effect is quite annoying when I want to take a screen-cap or just appreciate my character’s appearance.
The visual could be an option which can be turned on and off CLIENT SIDE ONLY.
Which means, if I wanted to, I could disable the visual effect for pictures and what not, or just cause I think it is ugly, but this would have no impact or bearing on other players capability to see my Aegis effect, regardless of my client side settings.
Much the same how you can run a lower resolution, or turn off various shaders or particle effects.
Not everything someone does impacts you :p Sometimes people can do things and you can do different things and its ok!
In the end though, I don’t mind it, but I see the buff bar much easier than I see the visuals in the face paced combat of this game.
maybe that’s because of my preference in shields but really as for now I didn’t have a shield that would cripple with aegis.
only bad issue for me is that aegis+radiant gloves+Guild shield = totally unreadable Guild Emblem.
btw. on that screenie with Flameseeker prophecy it isn’t that bad
and on the two-handed…
from these I mostly use a staff
and with staff it looks fine
btw. with that don’t visible outside fight….
most fight starts with that this aegis is broken
and it is also mostly info for me (when running with the staff) before fight if it is back again or not yet.
“-Shield is meant to be broken!”
“-and on this occasion I keep mine plate armors”
discussion about offensive/deffensive playstyles
I’m not sure Aegis would be something that’s OP without a visual, but I’m kinda for the idea that either everything has a ‘tell’ or none of it does. This is the current issue with classes like the Warrior where nearly everything he does has a “please dodge or interrupt me now” pause before he does it.
Without your weapon’s drawn, Aegis doesn’t draw. When you draw your weapons, inside or outside of combat, Aegis will draw on your character.
So, unless you are drawing your weapons and panning the camera around to the front of your character to check if Aegis is on or not before every combat, then seeing it prior to combat on your character is a moot point.
Thus, you can take a quick glance at your buff/boon bar and see if there is a little orange shield on the list at any time.
@CMF I’m Run with a staff and I’m running with alwats drawed.
also In this case I don’t need to turn camera around – because while running with drawed staff I can see if aegis is or isn’t there.
also lastly on CoF p1 I wanted to quickly check (after fight with the boss when we were starting to “skipping” the part with bridge) If my allies got aegis same as me from the passive (everybody had weapons drawn yet) and in run there was no time to click on everybody nor searching if on this army of buffs in the party panel was aegis….
“-Shield is meant to be broken!”
“-and on this occasion I keep mine plate armors”
discussion about offensive/deffensive playstyles
A simple solution would be just to have a toggle that would remove the ability to see buffs on yourself. Everyone else can still see them on you, you can still see them on everyone else. Does it fix the issue of other people seeing your ugly aegis? No. However, without reworking the appearance of aegis, it’s a pretty good middle ground.
The problem with this is that anybody that wants to engage in combat with you can’t tell at a glance whether or not you have aegis yet. Think WvW and roaming. The difference at a distance between you and a Warrior is likely only going to be the Aegis floating around on your arm. Since you aren’t in combat at that distance, he has no idea whether or not his first attack is going to be a wasted one.
Place the icon at our feet. Maybe slightly bigger but at our feet give us the shield particle effect. And I mean at our feet, below them.
Better idea would be similar to how WoW did their aura activations on Paladin class. What I wish also that would happen is that Aegis wouldn’t be applied until the player enters combat then it proc’s and the internal cd starts. This would allow some of our aegis traits to be more effective. Aegis would then fall off when guardian leaves combat after the duration of the buff has been spent.
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Man, I actually thought that it was “fixed” for a second. I was all happy. Yeah I hate the shield on the Ghastly Grinning Shield and Braham’s shield. It would be nice if maybe they did it in a different style and to check it on the Guardian.
I never understood why aegis has to be this obvious, yet the only cue other boons get, is an orange icon next to the players health bar, or a nice little effect when that boon activates. Why should aegis be any different?
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