Allow us to use old Virtues with DH

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Posted by: Bear on the job.6273

Bear on the job.6273

This is mainly a complaint about the Wings of Resolve virture, but can apply to all of them. For the majority of situations, I would prefer to use Virtue of Resolve instead of Wings, but I want to still have access to the DH traits and skills. The issue is that Virtue is instant cast (meaning instant heal and instant cleanse when traited), but Wings has a cast time (and can be interrupted).

Is this possible? It’s really frustrating to get these new features and toys, but we lose some ability to configure our characters the way we want.

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Posted by: Ghotistyx.6942

Ghotistyx.6942

It’s called opportunity cost and it exists all throughout the game.

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Posted by: Bear on the job.6273

Bear on the job.6273

Yes I understand there is an opportunity cost there, between the new and old virtues. The new virtues are more powerful, but have cast times and ground targeting shenanigans you have to deal with. But I think the player should have the ability customize their character based on those opportunity costs.

I don’t think they should be tied to the DH trait line itself. It should open up access to the new virtues, but not force you to use them. It would be like forcing you to use all traps for your heal/elite/utilities if you choose the DH trait line.

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Posted by: Ghotistyx.6942

Ghotistyx.6942

That would be removing opportunity costs, not customization based on them. You don’t get to choose what base Guardian Virtues you use, but you can choose which utilities and weapons you use. The elite spec comes with the profession mechanic change. You cannot have one without the other.

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Posted by: InViictuZz.1705

InViictuZz.1705

I think the only problem with the new virtues is the cast time with wings of resolve because it can be interrupted. but this is so easy to fix… just make the jump of wings of resolve an “evade” move. so u actually can´t touched while ur in the animation. as for the other virtues. IMO they are awesome

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Posted by: Ragnar the Rock.3174

Ragnar the Rock.3174

I think the only problem with the new virtues is the cast time with wings of resolve because it can be interrupted. but this is so easy to fix… just make the jump of wings of resolve an “evade” move. so u actually can´t touched while ur in the animation. as for the other virtues. IMO they are awesome

This ^

or make the virtues go on a short (4-5 second) cool down if interrupted like pretty much every other ability in game does if interrupted before it actually does anything.

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Posted by: Isarii.2804

Isarii.2804

The cast time on Shield of Courage is also extremely annoying. Not as big of a deal as with Wings of Resolve not being an evade, but would prefer that at least that one be instant.

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

They can put like instant heal and removing of conditions (if traited) and then jump towards enemy or friendly and then dmg/heal them. Not needed avoidence then.

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Posted by: caerulean.4837

caerulean.4837

Just make courage and resolve instant cast like the base virtues. Cast times on Justice and its pull make more sense than the projectile block and the super interrupt-able leap.

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Posted by: Scipion.7548

Scipion.7548

I think it would be better if you could have access to the longbow and traps without specing into DH.
So specing to an elite spec would mean “new traits + other F1, F2, etc”.