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Posted by: Shukay.3728

Shukay.3728

Q:

My question is simple, the new heal skill “Antitoxin Spray” is good for the guardian?

Both for yes and for no, say when is yes and when is no for you. (and what it is better in that case)

thanks for the answers

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Posted by: Tarsius.3170

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A:

Guardian Healing Skill Chart with 1000 Healing Power
Self Per Cast Self Per Minute Ally Per Cast Ally Per Minute
—-————————- —-—————- —-——————- —-—————- —-—————-
Shelter 5255 9482.71 0 0
Signet of Resolve 9400 13756.1 0 0
+ Signet Mastery 9400 17090.91 0 0
Healing Breeze 7525 10500 5325 7430.23
Antitoxin Spray 4520 8748.39 0 0
+ 1 condition 5201 10066.45 681 1318.06
+ 2 conditions 5882 11384.52 1362 2636.13
+ 3 conditions 6563 12702.58 2043 3954.19
+ 4 conditions 7244 14020.65 2724 5272.26
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Posted by: foofad.5162

foofad.5162

It heals for less than Shelter if you have no conditions on you. The only time it outperforms Shelter is if you cure two conditions with it, but you still miss out on the Blocking from Shelter. It does have some party utility from the group wide condition clearing but to be honest, it’s quite limited. I won’t be using it.

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Posted by: Mightymealworm.8409

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Its a decent option for zerg and group play if you are tank support build. Heals others like Healing breeze with condi removal and it can do it quicker on a lower cool down. Weak self heal, but I rarely use my heal in full support gear.

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

I have a feeling the heal is designed for when they release a new dungeon that’s condi heavy, but right now, I can’t find a reason to put it on my action bar. However, it’s not terrible for a Guardian.

Compare Antitoxin Spray to Withdraw on a thief. Withdraw has half the cooldown, heals for more, cures 1 less condition (although they are movement-hindering conditions instead of poison-like ones), and is an instant cast with an evade.

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Posted by: Yaki.9563

Yaki.9563

Its a decent option for zerg and group play if you are tank support build. Heals others like Healing breeze with condi removal and it can do it quicker on a lower cool down. Weak self heal, but I rarely use my heal in full support gear.

It doesn’t heal others.

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Posted by: Mightymealworm.8409

Mightymealworm.8409

You are half right. Turns out base heal only applies to caster, it does heal allies per condition removed though. So, less potent than originally thought.

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Posted by: Tarsius.3170

Tarsius.3170

Updated healing spreadsheet with Antitoxin Spray

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

How’s it compared to Signet of Resolve?

“Be like water” – Bruce Lee

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

My problem with it is it only removes poison, torment and confusion. If it removed three of any condition. Then I might use it.

I’ll stick with Shelter.

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Posted by: Tarsius.3170

Tarsius.3170

Agreed – it’s basically good for the nightmare events and nothing else. If it made you immune to those conditions for 10 seconds after cast it might be worth it – a counter to perplexity

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(edited by Tarsius.3170)

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Posted by: Aza.2105

Aza.2105

Its probably more beneficial in wvw than it is in pve outside of the nightmare events.

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Posted by: Tongku.5326

Tongku.5326

I tried it out for 2 days in WvW, kinda useless to mediocre at best. We already have far better ways to clear conditions + the ones not included in this heal. Only time I see it as usefull may be when you repeatedly fight an organized necro/mesmer heavy group, which is rare at best.

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Posted by: Shukay.3728

Shukay.3728

thanks for the answers.
I am also of the opinion that this skill is used up in the WVW, within a zerk.

Belonging to that case, I’d use it in PvE and not even in pvp …. so in the end not even the guardian is deriving benefit from this skill.

I chose the answer “Tarsius.3170” so as to put highlights in his work and the differences with the other heals ..

Gradierei anyway to know other opinions and tests carried out in person.