Anyway to get perma swiftness on Guardian?

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Posted by: TheGuy.3568

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Just wondering want to make an alt guardian and would like to know if this is possible. It doesn’t have to be perfectly permanent but like maybe less than 8 seconds down time would suffice. I will be doing research and see if I can figure it out but so far no luck.

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

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You can’t get perma, but you can stack boon duration and use certain runes(Rune of Speed). Also use the staff with Retreat and Save Yourselves.

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Posted by: Heinel.6548

Heinel.6548

If you have +60% boon duration, then you can have either

1) shout cd trait, save yourselves and retreat for 100% swiftness up time

or

2) 2 hander cd trait and staff #3 for 12 seconds every 13 seconds swiftness

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Posted by: Bas.8976

Bas.8976

Equip staff. Use the symbol (3), after you get the Swiftness buff use Retreat, and when your boon ends, use staff skill 3 again, followed by Save yourselves! When that Swiftness comes to an end, your Retreat should be recharged. Rinse, repeat, perma swiftness.

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Posted by: Yaki.9563

Yaki.9563

Equip staff. Use the symbol (3), after you get the Swiftness buff use Retreat, and when your boon ends, use staff skill 3 again, followed by Save yourselves! When that Swiftness comes to an end, your Retreat should be recharged. Rinse, repeat, perma swiftness.

Since symbol swiftness doesn’t stack with other swiftness, this is pretty clunky.

You can get permanent swiftness without staff but you need to stack boon duration, and much of it will only apply to you rather than the surrounding players/npcs.

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Posted by: Brutaly.6257

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Equip staff. Use the symbol (3), after you get the Swiftness buff use Retreat, and when your boon ends, use staff skill 3 again, followed by Save yourselves! When that Swiftness comes to an end, your Retreat should be recharged. Rinse, repeat, perma swiftness.

Since symbol swiftness doesn’t stack with other swiftness, this is pretty clunky.

It actually does, you just need to apply the symbol before retreat and then it will stack. But its a clunky.

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Posted by: Tarsius.3170

Tarsius.3170

If it’s just for keeping up with roving groups, or moving across a map quickly, then buy a stack of “engineer” medi packs from Lionguard Harral karma npc for 77 karma each:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Medical_Pack
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Drop_Stimulant
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Lionguard_Haral

That’s 10 secs of swiftness every 20 seconds – and use SYS and/or Retreat in between.

You have to drop the pack before going into battle though, but it also gives 10 secs of fury, so it can be handy pre-boost.

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Posted by: Bas.8976

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Equip staff. Use the symbol (3), after you get the Swiftness buff use Retreat, and when your boon ends, use staff skill 3 again, followed by Save yourselves! When that Swiftness comes to an end, your Retreat should be recharged. Rinse, repeat, perma swiftness.

Since symbol swiftness doesn’t stack with other swiftness, this is pretty clunky.

You can get permanent swiftness without staff but you need to stack boon duration, and much of it will only apply to you rather than the surrounding players/npcs.

As Brutaly already wrote, if you apply the shout’s buff after getting the buff from the staff symbol, they will stack.

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Posted by: Yaki.9563

Yaki.9563

Equip staff. Use the symbol (3), after you get the Swiftness buff use Retreat, and when your boon ends, use staff skill 3 again, followed by Save yourselves! When that Swiftness comes to an end, your Retreat should be recharged. Rinse, repeat, perma swiftness.

Since symbol swiftness doesn’t stack with other swiftness, this is pretty clunky.

You can get permanent swiftness without staff but you need to stack boon duration, and much of it will only apply to you rather than the surrounding players/npcs.

As Brutaly already wrote, if you apply the shout’s buff after getting the buff from the staff symbol, they will stack.

What I meant is that you have to wait for your swiftness to end to get the buff from the Symbol, meaning you will never truly have 100% swiftness as there will be a guaranteed gap in there.

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Posted by: null.1298

null.1298

You can chain the Symbol of Swiftness / SY / Retreat with Greatsword #3 Leap of Faith for even more mobility.

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Posted by: Bas.8976

Bas.8976

Equip staff. Use the symbol (3), after you get the Swiftness buff use Retreat, and when your boon ends, use staff skill 3 again, followed by Save yourselves! When that Swiftness comes to an end, your Retreat should be recharged. Rinse, repeat, perma swiftness.

Since symbol swiftness doesn’t stack with other swiftness, this is pretty clunky.

You can get permanent swiftness without staff but you need to stack boon duration, and much of it will only apply to you rather than the surrounding players/npcs.

As Brutaly already wrote, if you apply the shout’s buff after getting the buff from the staff symbol, they will stack.

What I meant is that you have to wait for your swiftness to end to get the buff from the Symbol, meaning you will never truly have 100% swiftness as there will be a guaranteed gap in there.

If you really count 3/4 of a second (Symbol of Swiftness) as a “gap” then that’s just silly – the method is as close to perma 33% boost as it gets and arguing semantics here is just nit-picking

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Posted by: Yaki.9563

Yaki.9563

Equip staff. Use the symbol (3), after you get the Swiftness buff use Retreat, and when your boon ends, use staff skill 3 again, followed by Save yourselves! When that Swiftness comes to an end, your Retreat should be recharged. Rinse, repeat, perma swiftness.

Since symbol swiftness doesn’t stack with other swiftness, this is pretty clunky.

You can get permanent swiftness without staff but you need to stack boon duration, and much of it will only apply to you rather than the surrounding players/npcs.

As Brutaly already wrote, if you apply the shout’s buff after getting the buff from the staff symbol, they will stack.

What I meant is that you have to wait for your swiftness to end to get the buff from the Symbol, meaning you will never truly have 100% swiftness as there will be a guaranteed gap in there.

If you really count 3/4 of a second (Symbol of Swiftness) as a “gap” then that’s just silly – the method is as close to perma 33% boost as it gets and arguing semantics here is just nit-picking

No it’s not, because no matter how much +duration you get you HAVE to cast the symbol at a given time and you will ALWAYS have a gap. Compare this to getting swiftness from other sources, where you can afford a bit of overlap and have flexibility to miss the button press by a second or two and still maintain permanent swiftness.

On my warrior, for example, I can get swiftness up to 2+ minute duration because there is an 5-10 second overlap in the durations of my swiftness skills. I’m not forced to perpetually hit the button at the exact right time in order to maintain my swiftness, and it truly is permanent. As guardian your swiftness buff is always dropping and there is always a gap in the buff the size of which depends on how perfectly you are timing your casting.

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Posted by: Amins.3710

Amins.3710

The answer is Yes.

Rune of Centaur, SY, Retreat + Boon Duration food and Shout Trait.

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Posted by: CRrabbit.1284

CRrabbit.1284

There are several ways to achieve that, but the real problem is whether it worth.

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Posted by: JohnLShannonhouse.1820

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In general, unless you are standing in one place and getting a boon from a symbol, getting swiftness, regeneration, protection or retaliation up 100% of the time or close to 100% is costly in exchange for what you could be getting instead (even from a symbol, too, because you are standing in one place). ANet has clearly worked hard to make you have to think about when you want to use your limited boon time. Getting nearly 100% swiftness is easy with enhanced 2-handed weapon recharge and boon duration using a staff. My general advice to those seeking a boon 100% of the time is it is not worth it. (With 2 guardians working together stacking their boons – that is a different story and often totally worth it.)

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Posted by: Twill.6217

Twill.6217

here’s how i get “perma” swiftness for traveling with my ordinary dungeoning gear/traits:

10 points in Virtues
2x Runes of Water
2x Runes of Monk
Staff skill 3
Reatreat
Save Yourselves
Superior Aria

result: 60 sec of swiftness and cooldowns refresh faster then it runs out.

enjoy.

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Posted by: Yaki.9563

Yaki.9563

here’s how i get “perma” swiftness for traveling with my ordinary dungeoning gear/traits:

10 points in Virtues
2x Runes of Water
2x Runes of Monk
Staff skill 3
Reatreat
Save Yourselves
Superior Aria

result: 60 sec of swiftness and cooldowns refresh faster then it runs out.

enjoy.

All that and you still have a minor gap when you are waiting on symbol pulse. Why bother with all the runes when you’re going to use staff + 2 shouts + traits?

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Posted by: Seras.5702

Seras.5702

Retreat + Save Yourselves + Staff #3 will get you very close to 100% uptime with no investment in traits or gear. So quick n’ easy swap out from travel to fight mode. +Boon duration food would probably get you to 100%.

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Posted by: ComeAndSee.1356

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If you stack 2x Rune of Water and 2x Rune of Monk and trait the 20% reduced cooldown on Two-handed weapons you can get about 90% up-time on the staff’s speed boon.

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Posted by: monkey.6702

monkey.6702

4 Runes of Centaur
2 Runes of the Pack
2-Handed Mastery from Honour Line

3 Skill from Staff, 100% uptime on speed

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Posted by: Hateborne.7942

Hateborne.7942

I use a full set of “Rune of the Pack” plus AH spec and a staff. There is ~1sec where I am without movement speed goodness.

The set is kind of all over the place stat-wise, but it suits my needs.

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Posted by: Manticore Five.9867

Manticore Five.9867

Yeah, it’s not so great for builds that aren’t focused on boon duration to have to burn all your rune slots if you want to cruise above fail speed. Best to carry a staff, run the 2 shouts, and pray that you have time to swap in your real stuff before a fight begins.

Because you can’t swap in your real rune set quite that easily.