Guild Wars 2

Hello there,

I really like the guardian way more than the warrior but there is one very disturbing thing that keeps me from enjoying this class: The lack of a real ranged weapon like a pistol, rifle or a bow. I totally dislike a heavy armored character to be limited to a wand/scepter and a staff only for ranged combat! It looks and feels extremely awkward. I didn’t want to roll a caster!

That does not disturb me in spvp, but in wvw, it does. The guardian is the only class with no viable ranged build and this is mainly because if his awkward caster weapons! I’d love to hear why the devs did decide to not give him a “real” ranged weapon! A lot of people are complaining about wvw/rvr and I think they are right. The only ranged options for the guardian are awkward caster weapons with awkward abilities!

The spear is just awesome, but unfortunately it’s unavailable on land. Why can’t the guardian get a similar javelin on land?

I’d love to hear from the devs if there are any plans of giving the guardian class a “real” ranged weapon, or if he’s going to be stuck with caster weapons forever.

Guardians are a hybrid. I like the concept of the scepter, but the implementation of how it works is just god awful. The snare is wonderful, smite isn’t too shabby itself, but the auto attack… my god what went wrong here?

Guardians are not warriors, they are very much a magical based class… they didn’t give guardians your standard physical damage ranged weapons because thats not what they are… think of a guardian being closer to what a Paladin is in many games then what a warrior is in most games, they are your protectors with the use of magic which is why even their melee weapons are big onto the magic side of controlling the field and not so much the physical side, heck one of your starting virtues is that every 5th weapon swing you do does fire damage.

Well, that’s exactly the point. I dislike the caster hybrid part of the guardian class, but I like everything else about the guardian. The warrior is too bland and I enjoy the guardian more, but I really hate the cast components of this class.

I doubt there will be any changes, so I’ll reroll anyway even though I do not enjoy the warrior, but I wanted to hear it from the devs. I’d really hate to shelf my guardian because his only ranged weapons are awkward caster weapons with a skill set that absolutely does not appeal to me at all.

I can live with his stupid tomes, but no proper ranged weapon? Come on!

Hockeyhacker.3184:

think of a guardian being closer to what a Paladin is in many games then what a warrior is in most games

See, this is Guild Wars 2, you don’t look at other MMOs at all when playing this game, because GW2 is about choice (which you don’t have in other generic games of this type) and guardian just pulls the short one when it comes to at least a decent ranged option (I literally dream about guardians getting a bow:p).

shedim.8504:

I can live with his stupid tomes, but no proper ranged weapon? Come on!

Tomes are among the best elites in the game, if not the best.

I do have hopes we will get a real ranged option some day, though

I love how the Guardian works, and I LOVE my class dearly, BUT, he’s completely right.

We lack a true range weapon and we suffer tremendously in WvWvW. I feel like I can be completely useless at times when most sieges are ranged vs ranged.

Don’t get me wrong, I know were a support class, but I thought EVERY class was supposed to be viable at damage and support. Scepter is god awful slow and useless in WvWvW.

A simple revamp of the scepter abilities could solve this problem. A revamp of spirit bow would be cool too, but since Elementalists already have Conjure Frost Bow, it would kind of take away that uniqueness. It also doesn’t help that Ray of Judgement doesn’t do what one would expect it to do. In GW1, it was THE Monk nuke. And awesome eye candy to boot. Please ANet, give me my moonbeam back.

I tend to think that fixing the scepter is all we really need. Orb of wrath should have a projectile speed similar to the mesmer’s ether bolt, and it wouldn’t hurt to make it a chain skill, either. Smite should be replaced with Symbol of Smiting that damages enemies and gives might to allies per tick. Chains of light wouldn’t be so bad if its duration were increased by 1 second.

Hockeyhacker.3184:

Guardians are not warriors, they are very much a magical based class… they didn’t give guardians your standard physical damage ranged weapons because thats not what they are…

they are your protectors with the use of magic which is why even their melee weapons are big onto the magic side of controlling the field and not so much the physical side.

This guy is close to the mark.

I really think you might actually enjoy playing the warrior more, making use of the rifle or bow.

So far, nothing has been announced.
If you want to discuss the lack of ranged options, we’ve got a thread for that already. The Question-format of the forum isn’t really for all types of questions, just the one with a definitive answers.

Vaeyrune.6804:

Hockeyhacker.3184:

Guardians are not warriors, they are very much a magical based class… they didn’t give guardians your standard physical damage ranged weapons because thats not what they are…

they are your protectors with the use of magic which is why even their melee weapons are big onto the magic side of controlling the field and not so much the physical side.

This guy is close to the mark.

I really think you might actually enjoy playing the warrior more, making use of the rifle or bow.

I find it very funny that the guardian is able to summon a bow minion, but unable to use a bow himself.

I fail to see where in the guardian’s class description it is precisely stated that he is a caster/cleric/WoW-esque paladin :-( I’m perfectly fine with magic, his virtues are in fact exactly what makes this class so much more than the unimaginative paladin-type you find in every other mmorpg, but then he gets bland caster abilities as his ultimates and shoots magical tennis balls with a wand, like somebody tried to make him half knight, half WoW priest or something.

I would have preferred the guardian to protect his allies by applying more buffs, or creating more symbol-areas to set up combos for teammates rather than casting heals like traditional healer classes in other mmorgs. It’s great that you can play him without those tomes even though the non-tome ultimate is so lackluster in comparison, but you don’t have to use the tomes. However, you can’t play him as a ranged without using a wand or a staff and this lack of choice is completely frustrating.

I really love this game, it’s by far the best mmorg I’ve seen and the fact that your weapon choice determines your playstyle is just awesome…unless you don’t have much of a choice. The guardian can summon a bow, but can’t use one himself. Why? Let him at least grab the ghost weapon bow and use it just like elementals can pick up their axes.

On top of being a beast in team-oriented activities (WvW, SPvP), do you really think having the utility to chip at people wise enough to not bother even fighting you is fair?

As bad the scepter reputation gets, i’m going all hipster here and say that its pretty good. There is a reason that the CC it has is a root type and not a gap closer.

P.S. Grabbing the summoned bow would, in fact, look awesome as heck. If for nothing but pure awesome, i’m upvoting it!