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Posted by: Lucentfir.7430

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Supposedly we’re becoming Op now cause of the Renewed Focus to meditation change, and we have too much damage and sustain. Starting to pop up on various areas of the forums :/

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Posted by: Charak.9761

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Kay.

Mesmer/Engi still kill guards even with the extra 2k heal every 90s

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Posted by: Michaeas Magister.1589

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Kay.

Mesmer/Engi still kill guards easily even with the extra 2k heal every 90s

Just had to add to that statement.

Thanks.

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

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The way I see it, there’s going to be a lot of fotm players playing med guard to see how it goes. After playing for a bit they realize med guard isn’t as great and easy to play as people make it out to be. Sure it counters some professions and builds very well, but it also has a lot of hard counters too. So they go back to playing whatever easy fotm faceroll builds they where playing before.

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Posted by: Charak.9761

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The way I see it, there’s going to be a lot of fotm players playing med guard to see how it goes. After playing for a bit they realize med guard isn’t as great and easy to play as people make it out to be. Sure it counters some professions and builds very well, but it also has a lot of hard counters too. So they go back to playing whatever easy fotm faceroll builds they where playing before.

that gets confusing to say flavor of the month when this game has fractal of the mist.

Yes medi is a useless PvE build (good for solo though, even WvW solo)

but medi is shut down so hard by people who can kite.

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Posted by: CMF.5461

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but medi is shut down so hard by people who can kite.

That is every other profession in the game though. You might argue engi and necro are more “stationary” but they have fear/stuns/immobs to kind of stationary kite.

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Posted by: Lucentfir.7430

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The way I see it, there’s going to be a lot of fotm players playing med guard to see how it goes. After playing for a bit they realize med guard isn’t as great and easy to play as people make it out to be. Sure it counters some professions and builds very well, but it also has a lot of hard counters too. So they go back to playing whatever easy fotm faceroll builds they where playing before.

that gets confusing to say flavor of the month when this game has fractal of the mist.

Yes medi is a useless PvE build (good for solo though, even WvW solo)

but medi is shut down so hard by people who can kite.

Of course, however a lot of Warriors are starting to complain now (lol) that we have too much damage and blinds for them to compete, even though a WP’d Warrior can still beat a meditation guardian. It’s just people are complaining now since their class got nerfed but ours got buffed. They’re even suggesting nerfs like reducing LoF’s damage, nerfing Fiery Wrath, also supposedly we have spammable defenses as a meditation guard.

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Posted by: Bash.7291

Bash.7291

Oh it will be fun. We finally get something useful and everyone cries foul. Honestly I would have wanted something different, like it empowers the virtues and adds an extra effect for X seconds, or does something special on the next activation, but i guess that would be creative thinking >.>

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Posted by: Vikkela.7261

Vikkela.7261

Yeah I got infracted already and my post deleted when I participated in said subject, I’m just gonna ignore them now

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Posted by: Charak.9761

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Medi gets boring

Would like more spirit buffs, they’re amazing in spvp 1v1 but I cant use them in open-world or roaming because they arent permanently up like necro pets.

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Posted by: Ragnar the Rock.3174

Ragnar the Rock.3174

Kay.

Mesmer/Engi still kill guards even with the extra 2k heal every 90s

Also guardians lack a real snare so kiting them is pretty easy if you half decent.

Not to mention the fact that guardians have the lowest starting health pool. That necessitates they spend allot of their traits bulking up their health & limits how they can build.

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Supposedly we’re becoming Op now cause of the Renewed Focus to meditation change, and we have too much damage and sustain. Starting to pop up on various areas of the forums :/

-Meditations grant Fury.
-Your meditations recharge 20% faster.
-You are healed when you use a meditation.

Basically we get an extra 2k heal every 72 seconds. How exactly does this make us op? :/
They wont nerf us until they see med guards in tournaments (which they want) and doing significantly better (which we wont).

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Posted by: Relentliss.2170

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Since they are not really seen on a competative level I guess that means they need a boost. I think the change is sweet, but I doubt I will be any more OP than I am now.

We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills, we make all of it optional

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Posted by: Ragnar the Rock.3174

Ragnar the Rock.3174

Supposedly we’re becoming Op now cause of the Renewed Focus to meditation change, and we have too much damage and sustain. Starting to pop up on various areas of the forums :/

-Meditations grant Fury.
-Your meditations recharge 20% faster.
-You are healed when you use a meditation.

Basically we get an extra 2k heal every 72 seconds. How exactly does this make us op? :/
They wont nerf us until they see med guards in tournaments (which they want) and doing significantly better (which we wont).

If they really want to see medi guards do well in tourny’s then they need to give the guardian some snares.

Adding a baseline 3 second cripple on to the sword #2 & greatsword #3 would help a ton.
As is anybody with half a brain can kite a guardian fairly easily.

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Posted by: CMF.5461

CMF.5461

After people flock to FOTM medi guards and see themselves get rolled, and then as we see less and less need for bunker guards in the current meta…I hope they will stop saying “guardians are fine..in a good place” and take an honest look at the class and balance of it in the whole picture.

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Posted by: Fiorrello.8126

Fiorrello.8126

I hope medi guard becomes the new FotM, its much easier to deal with then turret engi.

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Posted by: Monoman.2068

Monoman.2068

We can talk fotm when meditation guardians have real cc and/or weapon based condition removal (which I want for torch). Until then, I will continue to get man handled by your condition class of choice.

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Posted by: mulzi.8273

mulzi.8273

i think you’ll see more folks flocking to the mesmer and rangers first. auto-attack torment is going to be ugly to classes that kite.

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Posted by: Kicast.1459

Kicast.1459

It is so funny…I come from mesmer which has been put down to the ground for more than one year everywhere and now I see that this is what is happening to guards.
I thought it was clever not going easily on the train of thieves and warriors as they were completely out of control and toxic for the game.
Obviously Arena does not think like me.
Now I suppose I have to pic the most toxic profession to hope it will get some love.
Thief / War / Turret engy ?

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

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I hope medi guard becomes the new FotM, its much easier to deal with then turret engi.

Imo guardians are the easiest class to defeat.

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Posted by: Eiland.1405

Eiland.1405

Supposedly we’re becoming Op now cause of the Renewed Focus to meditation change, and we have too much damage and sustain. Starting to pop up on various areas of the forums :/

-Meditations grant Fury.
-Your meditations recharge 20% faster.
-You are healed when you use a meditation.

Basically we get an extra 2k heal every 72 seconds. How exactly does this make us op? :/
They wont nerf us until they see med guards in tournaments (which they want) and doing significantly better (which we wont).

I don’t even play guard anymore and I can tell that you forget the fact that the skill itself is getting a lowerd CD. That means -18 sec on full immune and -18sec on 3 condi clears and party aegis.
And lol at the guy at thread start who did not even figured that the skill is getting the lower CD. Real pros here at guard forum :P

Med guard was already in good place so it kinda safe bet to say that this change will take them to top tier at least for duelling aspect.

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Posted by: AGGabriel.9230

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If the guards get some supposed good changes what changes will the other classes get to counter it don’t forget we are at the bottom of the food chain in pvp and the devs are always against the guards (my perspective)

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

I hope medi guard becomes the new FotM, its much easier to deal with then turret engi.

Imo guardians are the easiest class to defeat.

They are “easier” to beat because the class is actually balanced right. All the hard hitting skills have obvious animations (which is how all professions should be). So it really just comes down the skill of the players.

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Posted by: Charak.9761

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If there becomes an over-abundance of guardians.

everyone will re-roll Mesmer.

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

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If there becomes an over-abundance of guardians.

everyone will re-roll Mesmer.

i tough we were already on that state since release o_O

every day i see several new guardians while semi-afk on queensdale or preparing foods for wvw (i use queensdale TP :P).

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Posted by: Charak.9761

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and then when everyone is a mesmer getting stomped by necros

everyone rerolls necro.

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Posted by: Shademehr.1397

Shademehr.1397

If there becomes an over-abundance of guardians.

everyone will re-roll Mesmer.

i tough we were already on that state since release o_O

every day i see several new guardians while semi-afk on queensdale or preparing foods for wvw (i use queensdale TP :P).

And I’m sure almost every single one of them had “key” somewhere in their name. Don’t worry though, I suspect you’ll see far fewer of those now.

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Posted by: Lucentfir.7430

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Supposedly we’re becoming Op now cause of the Renewed Focus to meditation change, and we have too much damage and sustain. Starting to pop up on various areas of the forums :/

-Meditations grant Fury.
-Your meditations recharge 20% faster.
-You are healed when you use a meditation.

Basically we get an extra 2k heal every 72 seconds. How exactly does this make us op? :/
They wont nerf us until they see med guards in tournaments (which they want) and doing significantly better (which we wont).

I don’t even play guard anymore and I can tell that you forget the fact that the skill itself is getting a lowerd CD. That means -18 sec on full immune and -18sec on 3 condi clears and party aegis.
And lol at the guy at thread start who did not even figured that the skill is getting the lower CD. Real pros here at guard forum :P

Med guard was already in good place so it kinda safe bet to say that this change will take them to top tier at least for duelling aspect.

Yes because all Medi guards spec 4 into virtues or go a build route looking like 2/1/6/1/4. I was clearly aware, of RF getting a lower CD, but that isn’t actually basis to becoming broken.. Rangers got their entangle on a much lower CD, and Warriors can trait to have their elites be 48 sec on SoR, even thieves have this with Venoms(Basilisk).

Duel wise you’ll still get mowed over by a engineer celestial/Condi, or a skilled perplexity Terrormancer. And Variations of Ele D/D ele that are not full blown glass.

Edit:
@Bolded Semtence
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/balance/medi-guards-replace-warrior/first#post4349907

Mhm right….totally forgot it’s getting a CD! These posters now a days :>

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