Guild Wars 2

I don’t play guardian much, it’s not my main character. When I do play him, however, I want to use Spirit Weapons. And I wondered what you thought would be the best stats for that?

35 views and not one opinion on the matter yet? Ouch lol

Morfedel.4165:

35 views and not one opinion on the matter yet? Ouch lol

You make it clear you do not care about the class.. Why expect anyone to spend time helping you?

Commonly they are considered too weak – their health is too small, they decay too fast and the skills cooldown starts only after the spirit vanishes, while their damage output is in a good spot but the traits are again too spread out. You’d almost have to go 6/0/6/0/2 to take out the most of the traits.

But there are some people using them, I’m not sure of any viable build though. First of all,what gamemode? PvP?

Morfedel I gotta agree with Siobhan. Your way of phrasing doesnt make us want to help you….at all..

In response though. It depends on how you set it up. If your using SW for htere utility youl prob be looking at something NOT focused on damage. Meaning that youl be running tanky sets. (probably a cleric variant with Hammer Shield Bow and Mace/Shield Scepter/Focus)

If your using htem for the burst potential. You have atleast 6 in zeal for the damage increase. and probably 4 in radiance.

Youl want to pick something that allows decent damage without being squishy since you dont have defensives from traits. Youl probably go soldiers.

If you want to go the condi variant youl STILL have 6 in zeal and 4 in radiance. But youl have amplified wrath instead. With this youl probably go carrion or celestial.

Shadelang.3012:

Morfedel I gotta agree with Siobhan. Your way of phrasing doesnt make us want to help you….at all..

In response though. It depends on how you set it up. If your using SW for htere utility youl prob be looking at something NOT focused on damage. Meaning that youl be running tanky sets. (probably a cleric variant with Hammer Shield Bow and Mace/Shield Scepter/Focus)

If your using htem for the burst potential. You have atleast 6 in zeal for the damage increase. and probably 4 in radiance.

Youl want to pick something that allows decent damage without being squishy since you dont have defensives from traits. Youl probably go soldiers.

If you want to go the condi variant youl STILL have 6 in zeal and 4 in radiance. But youl have amplified wrath instead. With this youl probably go carrion or celestial.

All right, perhaps I didn’t word it right. The reason I said it the way I did was to avoid people coming in and making comments like “simple, don’t play SW, they suck” or something like that. There are always people like that, and I was trying to make it clear I wasn’t looking for the best build in the world, I was looking for a SW build only.

So perhaps I worded it wrong. My apologies to both of you, and whomever else may have been bugged by that. I wanted a build I’d find fun, regardless whether or not its considered weak or powerful.

I went and edited my main post slightly to reflect this. Hopefully it was sufficient.

Shadelang.3012:

Morfedel I gotta agree with Siobhan. Your way of phrasing doesnt make us want to help you….at all..

In response though. It depends on how you set it up. If your using SW for htere utility youl prob be looking at something NOT focused on damage. Meaning that youl be running tanky sets. (probably a cleric variant with Hammer Shield Bow and Mace/Shield Scepter/Focus)

If your using htem for the burst potential. You have atleast 6 in zeal for the damage increase. and probably 4 in radiance.

Youl want to pick something that allows decent damage without being squishy since you dont have defensives from traits. Youl probably go soldiers.

If you want to go the condi variant youl STILL have 6 in zeal and 4 in radiance. But youl have amplified wrath instead. With this youl probably go carrion or celestial.

I was thinking of going 6/4/2/0/2, zeal VI/X/XI, Radiance III/VIII, Valor V, Virtues V. Taking all the SW boosting traits, and adding in shimmering defense and purity.

aside from making SWs better overall, it does look like those choices are adding in a bit more to my burning potential….

The stats on a SW build are somewhat flexible due to SWs not scaling with the user’s stats (besides Bow of Truth’s active, which scales with healing power). I’m not entirely sure what you would use, but I suppose it would depend on the kind of SW build? I’m guessing berserker stats would work for most offensive SW builds. Zealot stats would work well, but sadly there are no zealot amulets in PvP.

Fashion Mage.3712:

The stats on a SW build are somewhat flexible due to SWs not scaling with the user’s stats (besides Bow of Truth’s active, which scales with healing power). I’m not entirely sure what you would use, but I suppose it would depend on the kind of SW build? I’m guessing berserker stats would work for most offensive SW builds. Zealot stats would work well, but sadly there are no zealot amulets in PvP.

Hm, so SW doesnt scale with user stats? I didn’t know that. I’d assumed it was like Mesmer’s phantasms, which DO scale based on the mesmer’s stats.

If that’s not the case, the stats wouldn’t really matter too much, eh?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/W-I-P-PVP-Celestial-Spirit-Bunker

The only reason I link this for you is because myself, and a few other guardian players were talking about this a couple of weeks ago, and some interesting ideas came up.
Hopefully you’ll find it useful to you.

Condition Damage and Condition Duration improve the Spirit Weapons Burning damage from the Burning on Hit trait. With Balthazar Runes and other Condi/Burning Duration, you can get them to +100% Burning Duration for 2s of burning on every hit. Condi Damage also helps if you are triggering Virtue of Justice frequently to give your spirit weapons a large Burn on their next attack (which can be extremely long if you have +100% Burning duration).

Spirit Weapons are easier to use when you are alone because…

• Buffs and heals prioritize players over pets and npcs, so when you are with other people, your spirits won’t get many buffs/heals.
• Burning can be a huge part of their damage, and when alone your Burning isn’t competing with someone else’s.
• Your spirits have a hard enough time chasing people around without other players knocking enemies all over the place.

It kinda depends what you’re wanting.

If you want spirits to actually last longer, as well as have nice bursty damage, you can go might stacking with hoelbrak/might runes staff/gs
http://tinyurl.com/pkbdqrs
skill level-high

If you wanting a more fun knockback/trolling build I’d recommend Hammer / scepter + Shield
Hammer mainly because it has an immobilize + launch + #5’s Ring. Practically 3 cc’s.
http://tinyurl.com/nqs7mvd

I personally like the spirit hammers 5k crit damage, over permeating wrath. Sigils can be changed but I recommend hydromancy on one of the weapon sets to slow people down.

If you switch traits around Zeal: VI and Virtues: V supercedes all others traits.

I’ve used celestial for a SW build in casual PvP: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNArdSlsApKoFBxOI8DRh8gkVdLDdp6JBecVMA-TJBGwAu3fAwpA4wTAgZZAA

Note that it’s a gimmick build, so it’s meant to use as many SW traits as possible. Since one of them lets the weapons apply burning, I thought celestial might be nice for the hybridization, and the defender’s flame trait synergizes well with shelter and the focus.

You can set up some very damaging CC-chain combos with your hammer and the SW hammer, and the immob on both the sceptre and focus make for quite a bit of control you can put on a target.

It does stuggle with heavy condi pressure though. In that instance, using the bow would probably be better, or making some trait adjustments.