Guild Wars 2

Why have I never used this before?!

Virtue of Justice with Justice is Blind and Renewed Justice for stomps.

Pop it while stomping, the interrupts become misses and then VoJ is renewed after stomp is completed!

Maybe a duh moment for some, but I typically was relying on stability or aegis to complete the job, never thought about a blind :p

Ah yes, that’s always quite nice with the Radiance traits.

Won’t stop a thief, mesmer, or ele stomp break. But it’s a good idea for stomping warrior, guard, engi. If they are smart they’ll tickle you once blinded then interrupt.

To be fair, stability or aegis won’t stop a thief, mesmer, or ele stomp either.

Also you can anticipate most interrupts or see an animation just prior to the interrupt (usually they stop 1 spamming you and there is a lack of damage for a couple of seconds).

With this, you have a stomp for multiple downed targets in quick succession instead of waiting on 20+ second cooldowns.

I really think this is our intended primary stomper as this synergy with renewed justice works so well in pvp with the downed state and all.

Regardless, another tool for the toolbelt

This is indeed great but… who uses Radiance for PvP builds?

As much as I like damage builds (I’m in favor of Zeal/Radiance builds), a 0/0/30/30/0 + 10 build outperforms every other build in sPvP right now… some may even claim a 0/0/0/30/30 + 10 is also a good option, but AH/Monk’s Focus makes me practically invincible/really hard to beat in 1v1s, and even more in XvX (though it lacks the support of Virtue).

At least I hope Zeal/Radiance gets some love in the 25th patch, because I’d really like to play these lines in PvP without worrying about another undying Guardian I might face.

very true, the ah/monk’s focus builds guide most of our gameplay because of the survivability that they bring to the table. You can achieve a 0/15/30/x/x and still have monks or AH with a sacrifice in HP/healing power.

0/15/30/20/5 gets a majority of the wanted traits and stats in a 0/0/30/30/0 + 10 build.

If you do not go 30 down Honor you miss out on shout condition removal with AH, but with a monks set up, that is not an issue.

Spread things out a bit and see what you feel you can afford to sacrifice I guess is what I am saying.

I run a 0/15/30/20/5 build on my guardian for everything. I like it quite a bit.

The 15 points in radiance allows for blind on F1, recharge on F1 when something dies, and Signet Mastery. Since I run the healing signet and the damage reduction signet it plays nice.

When lots of things are dying, you can spam F1 a lot. This dishes out lots of blinds as well as lots of Might (from 5-pt Inspired Virtues trait). The Might then feeds back into AH.

i’ve consistently run 10/30/30/0/0 for customs, and then a 0/30/30/5/5 for tPvP and it’s worked out for me so far. : )) the second build actually offers a lot of sustainability even if you don’t pull your burst off. it’s, DPS burst but not a one trick pony.

Danicco.3568:

This is indeed great but… who uses Radiance for PvP builds?

As much as I like damage builds (I’m in favor of Zeal/Radiance builds), a 0/0/30/30/0 + 10 build outperforms every other build in sPvP right now… some may even claim a 0/0/0/30/30 + 10 is also a good option, but AH/Monk’s Focus makes me practically invincible/really hard to beat in 1v1s, and even more in XvX (though it lacks the support of Virtue).

At least I hope Zeal/Radiance gets some love in the 25th patch, because I’d really like to play these lines in PvP without worrying about another undying Guardian I might face.

Says Who? Radiance is the only viable DPS spec for a guardian. I cannot see how people DPS with Valor and Honor.

10/30/10/0/20 is the strongest DPS build for a guardian. It is virtually immune to all conditions and hits for 5k with 270 retaliations.

Chase.8415:

Says Who? Radiance is the only viable DPS spec for a guardian. I cannot see how people DPS with Valor and Honor.

10/30/10/0/20 is the strongest DPS build for a guardian. It is virtually immune to all conditions and hits for 5k with 270 retaliations.

In PvP, any build without AH or MF is in a huge disadvantage. I don’t think you can burst any decent player fast enough with a DpS build to make up for the lack of defense these builds have, and I find it far more easy to 1vX against offensive builds like than anything else (because they seriously lack a way to sustain themselves).

If you’re talking about PvE, please note that my original post said PvP. In PvE, anything goes…

Just quickly to respond to some people in this thread.

• A burst guardian with 0303055 is a hard counter to a DPS guard with 00303010 or 0530305.

• The Guardian Bunker currently runs 00103030, which does not have 30 in Valor and, of course, does not suffer because of it.

• You can’t spec into Radiance and play DPS because you don’t have sustain and will die, that’s why Honour and Valor keep you alive with tons of heals while still doing a crap load of damage.

• It’s almost impossible to play pvp with points in zeal, REGARDLESS OF WHAT BUILD YOU RUN, due to not being able to spec into Honour and Virtues 5 (which is the crux of all guardian builds). This exception are bunkers sacrificing 10 points from virtues or valor to get spirit weapon traits.

Danicco.3568:

Chase.8415:

Says Who? Radiance is the only viable DPS spec for a guardian. I cannot see how people DPS with Valor and Honor.

10/30/10/0/20 is the strongest DPS build for a guardian. It is virtually immune to all conditions and hits for 5k with 270 retaliations.

In PvP, any build without AH or MF is in a huge disadvantage. I don’t think you can burst any decent player fast enough with a DpS build to make up for the lack of defense these builds have, and I find it far more easy to 1vX against offensive builds like than anything else (because they seriously lack a way to sustain themselves).

If you’re talking about PvE, please note that my original post said PvP. In PvE, anything goes…

I am talking about PvP, and no it’s not a huge disadvantage. Suit yourself if you think it’s bad, but I am constantly queuing in the top 1000 bracket and killing people with it. The defense of the build is signet of judgement, which applies weakness to players. You also have several blinds and blocks with tons of condition removal.

Chase.8415:

Danicco.3568:

Chase.8415:

Says Who? Radiance is the only viable DPS spec for a guardian. I cannot see how people DPS with Valor and Honor.

10/30/10/0/20 is the strongest DPS build for a guardian. It is virtually immune to all conditions and hits for 5k with 270 retaliations.

In PvP, any build without AH or MF is in a huge disadvantage. I don’t think you can burst any decent player fast enough with a DpS build to make up for the lack of defense these builds have, and I find it far more easy to 1vX against offensive builds like than anything else (because they seriously lack a way to sustain themselves).

If you’re talking about PvE, please note that my original post said PvP. In PvE, anything goes…

I am talking about PvP, and no it’s not a huge disadvantage. Suit yourself if you think it’s bad, but I am constantly queuing in the top 1000 bracket and killing people with it. The defense of the build is signet of judgement, which applies weakness to players. You also have several blinds and blocks with tons of condition removal.

lol signets

Darek.1836:

Chase.8415:

Danicco.3568:

Chase.8415:

Says Who? Radiance is the only viable DPS spec for a guardian. I cannot see how people DPS with Valor and Honor.

10/30/10/0/20 is the strongest DPS build for a guardian. It is virtually immune to all conditions and hits for 5k with 270 retaliations.

In PvP, any build without AH or MF is in a huge disadvantage. I don’t think you can burst any decent player fast enough with a DpS build to make up for the lack of defense these builds have, and I find it far more easy to 1vX against offensive builds like than anything else (because they seriously lack a way to sustain themselves).

If you’re talking about PvE, please note that my original post said PvP. In PvE, anything goes…

I am talking about PvP, and no it’s not a huge disadvantage. Suit yourself if you think it’s bad, but I am constantly queuing in the top 1000 bracket and killing people with it. The defense of the build is signet of judgement, which applies weakness to players. You also have several blinds and blocks with tons of condition removal.

lol signets

Go ahead and send me a whisper ingame, I promise I will surprise you.

you mean this build?

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.3|1.1g.h2|6.1g.h2|1n.7c.1n.7c.1n.7c.1n.7c.1g.7c.1g.7c|3s.d1d.3t.d1d.3s.d1d.3t.d1d.3s.d1d.2s.d1d|0.f6.u64b.k69.5|l.o|v.17.18.13.0|e

(ignore items)

After playing against Chase in various 1v1s, I can see that Radiance is indeed viable for PvP, but I’m still not doubt-free of how it performs in various other situations.

For 1v1 (and possibly defending/attacking a location), it works very well, the burst is great and comes with a barrage of Blinds and some CC.

I don’t know how it would go if the fight dragged on, if your opponent evade the burst for example, how it can hold, but that’s where the player skill comes in… if you can overwhelm their defenses and finish it quick, it’s excellent.

I don’t enjoy the bunker play style and this is much more enjoyable, and to anyone who thinks AH or bunker builds are a must for PvP, I recommend giving it a try too.

DpS Guardians, ahoy!

I can see how it would be good in 1v1. But the minute anyone else shows up, or in a group fight. You’re screwed.

I played around with a similar build. 20/25/0/25/0. People simply melted. Not even funny how fast I could kill someone, but the second I’d start to take focus fire. I’d be dead.

http://youtu.be/rTEWPGScLoI

Always wanted to try my hand at video editing, and this provided me an opportunity. Nothing special, just a couple clips of the blind stomps I was talking about.

Trying to figure out how to make the little watermark overlay and position it correctly took hours…..I don’t know if I enjoy this enough to sit there and record everything I do then sort around for good clips :p

Ran with the following:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQRAsf7elUgSDHHyNEfIFRuArHA8g+DXw1DI6wGC-TwAg0CnISSlkLJTSyksJNuYVwGkJEA

Was not trying for any serious competitive build, just something to mess around with voj stomps.

Harbinger.8637:

I can see how it would be good in 1v1. But the minute anyone else shows up, or in a group fight. You’re screwed.

I played around with a similar build. 20/25/0/25/0. People simply melted. Not even funny how fast I could kill someone, but the second I’d start to take focus fire. I’d be dead.

The build is focused for team support, not exactly sure where you’re getting it was designed for 1v1.

Sorry I don’t see how 10/30/10/0/20 is team support. I don’t know your traits, but I can take a pretty good guess at it.

Fiery Wrath
Signet Mastery
Blind Exposure
Right-Hand Strength
Purity
Vengeful
Absolute Resolution

So unless you’re running two shouts with soldier runes or using Consecration. I honestly don’t see any support here. Just roamer dps build.

Harbinger.8637:

Sorry I don’t see how 10/30/10/0/20 is team support. I don’t know your traits, but I can take a pretty good guess at it.

Fiery Wrath
Signet Mastery
Blind Exposure
Right-Hand Strength
Purity
Vengeful
Absolute Resolution

So unless you’re running two shouts with soldier runes or using Consecration. I honestly don’t see any support here. Just roamer dps build.

Weakness and retaliation is support.

Also, Right-Hand Strength is replaced with Perfect Inscriptions.
And Purity is replaced with Strength in Numbers, since it adds 250 toughness to allies now.

Chase.8415:

Harbinger.8637:

Sorry I don’t see how 10/30/10/0/20 is team support. I don’t know your traits, but I can take a pretty good guess at it.

Fiery Wrath
Signet Mastery
Blind Exposure
Right-Hand Strength
Purity
Vengeful
Absolute Resolution

So unless you’re running two shouts with soldier runes or using Consecration. I honestly don’t see any support here. Just roamer dps build.

Weakness and retaliation is support.

Also, Right-Hand Strength is replaced with Perfect Inscriptions.
And Purity is replaced with Strength in Numbers, since it adds 250 toughness to allies now.

Fair enough I guess. If it works for you, more power to you.

When I think of support. I’m thinking like staff, mace/shield, using Shouts or Consecration. Then traits like EM, Pure of Voice, Selfless Daring, and etc you get my point.

I could see the build working better after the patch if some of those rumored changes go through. Like the change to Weakness, and Judgment being a stun breaker. Also Strength in Numbers is going to be 150 not 250.

Harbinger.8637:

Also Strength in Numbers is going to be 150 not 250.

250 would be great. I could fight naked!