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Posted by: Guardian of Angels.9867

Guardian of Angels.9867

Can anyone give their opinion on the following builds?
Just for normal PvE usage, as I love the traveler permanent speed.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR8dl8ApXolCxZI8DNR8Ql7Yki2+BtQlBQDA-ThRAABbp8DA7PyU9n+uCAE8QAUTJIA-e

vs

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR8dl8ApUo9CxZI8DNR8Ql7Yki2+BtQlBQDA-ThRBABXp8rS1fCc/BAuCA59QAMTJIA-e

Will I notice the 84 power loss?
Same goes for all other stat that goes down?

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Posted by: NumenorLord.6539

NumenorLord.6539

Hello there

From what I see you want to run something very similar to the Meta build but with soldier armor and the difference lies in Crest of the Soldier VS. Runes of the Traveler.

First of all, I want you to realize there are a lot of better options when it comes to Crest or Runes. Casual PVE content as Dungeons and World Bosses aren’t areas that big (except for Arah) for you to need the permanent speed buff plus you have traited Retreat that will grant you swiftness every now and then, for running open world and map completion just change your GS for Staff.

Now Let me talk to you about the gear of choice you have made: I know you are worried about surviving, but as I see it, you can have the same (even better) survivability with better damage based on higher crit chance. I made this build for you to check:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR8dlsApUo9CxZI8DRR8Ql7Y8i2+BtQVBAWPBA-TxBBABYp8DgHAAO7PYxBBIT1fC4KAcmSQA-e

I changed: Soldier gear for Knight, Night Sigils for Accuracy and Frailty (more crit chance and Vilnerability to stack with your blinds, besides it’s not always night), picked up Flame Legion Runes (they’re really cheap) so you can use before you decide to go with Scholar. Also took 2 points from Zeal to Honor (more vitality, now you have Vigor on crit so more dodges and Retreat will recharge every 30 seconds (gw2skills needs to be updated!) so this will mean more survivability. also changed healing breeze for shlelter (blocks will save you many times) and swapped UC for Absolute Resolution for it to be your main condi removal and getting more passive healing.

As I see, this is kinda Metabuild training wheels for guardian, even if your power is lower, you’re gonna make more damage than with Soldier gear (52% crit chance means 1 in every 2 hits are a critical hit) so you’re gonna go through PVE content faster and be a more helpful party member in dungeon runs.

My advice: Play with this, learn how to time your dodges, blinds and blocks and start moving piece by piece to Zerker armor. If you have gold go for Scholar runes instead of Flame Legion.

Sorry for the long post but I had to explian. here’s a potato dressed as Iron Man:

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Guardian of Angels.9867

Thanks for that long post, still – will I notice the 84 power loss? :P

I’ve got 4,5k hours on my guardian, survivability is not an issue
I run full zerker ascended in dungeons.

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Posted by: NumenorLord.6539

NumenorLord.6539

Thanks for that long post, still – will I notice the 84 power loss? :P

I’ve got 4,5k hours on my guardian, survivability is not an issue
I run full zerker ascended in dungeons.

Higher crit means more damage than higher base power with lower crit chance, keep in mind also that with this build you would be making 7% more damage to foes that are burning (gw2skills don’t add this percentage because it’s a variable) and you should spam VoJ with this setup so it’s perma 7% or perma 10% with Scholar Runes.

If you have no problem surviving then just take the 2 points in Honor back to Zeal, this will mean total of 2106 base Power + 5% more damage with GS with Zealous Blade traited +7% against burning foes with Flame Legion Runes or + 10% with Scholar Runes while you are at 90% health. Still more damage cause of higher crit, more base power than your second build and similar power to your first build adding the % from runes that don’t show in the build editor.

Most important is that you can run zerker gear in open world regardless of the build as long as you use zerker cause everything will melt in your way. For world completion (that I think is what you’re looking for) I would suggest Obal’s staff camper’s delight:

http://intothemists.com/guides/4172-dps_staff_camping_delight

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Posted by: Guardian of Angels.9867

Guardian of Angels.9867

How about no?

I asked for a questions if I would notice the 84 power loss, not for the perfect build for PvE…

Anyone able to answer my question?

Edit:
I’ve got 100% world completion, I don’t need to give you a reason why I like to run stuff I like <3

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Posted by: NumenorLord.6539

NumenorLord.6539

How about no?

I asked for a questions if I would notice the 84 power loss, not for the perfect build for PvE…

Anyone able to answer my question?

Edit:
I’ve got 100% world completion, I don’t need to give you a reason why I like to run stuff I like <3

I don’t know about noticing the power loss… Go and test and see it for yourself as it seems most logical course of acftion and I’m not asking you for reasons, just trying to help, go and run/wear whatever you like ^^ but I really don’t get why wearing soldier gear in open world… Dolyak’s will take like half an hour to kill you if you’re naked.

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Posted by: Keksmuffin.1450

Keksmuffin.1450

Traveler rune is horrible for your damage but so is crest of the soldier so I guess it doesn’t really make a difference.

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Posted by: Guardian of Angels.9867

Guardian of Angels.9867

but I really don’t get why wearing soldier gear in open world… Dolyak’s will take like half an hour to kill you if you’re naked.

You don’t have to get it, if Zerker is all you know / care about I’d like to advise you not to comment on other builds (Unless they ask for help to run zerker <3)

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Posted by: NumenorLord.6539

NumenorLord.6539

but I really don’t get why wearing soldier gear in open world… Dolyak’s will take like half an hour to kill you if you’re naked.

You don’t have to get it, if Zerker is all you know / care about I’d like to advise you not to comment on other builds (Unless they ask for help to run zerker <3)

I’m just gonna asume that you’re either trolling me or just are one of those antielitist guardians that make dungeon runs last for hours in pugs.

If you don’t want to read to other person’s opinions don’t ask on a forum. 84 power loss won’t make a difference in open PVE as everything is easy and will die only by looking at it even in uber soldier gear, there you have your answer.

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I’m just gonna asume that you’re either trolling me or just are one of those antielitist guardians that make dungeon runs last for hours in pugs.

Yeah, I’m that anti-elitist while I just stated a few posts ago I actually run the dungeon meta zerker in dungeons (Full ascended zerker). So I’m not trolling or an anti-elitist.

If you don’t want to read to other person’s opinions don’t ask on a forum.

I’d like opinions on the questions I ask, not some dude that just wants to put Zerker in my face just because it’s the fastest.

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NumenorLord.6539

I’m just gonna asume that you’re either trolling me or just are one of those antielitist guardians that make dungeon runs last for hours in pugs.

Yeah, I’m that anti-elitist while I just stated a few posts ago I actually run the dungeon meta zerker in dungeons (Full ascended zerker). So I’m not trolling or an anti-elitist.

If you don’t want to read to other person’s opinions don’t ask on a forum.

I’d like opinions on the questions I ask, not some dude that just wants to put Zerker in my face just because it’s the fastest.

I’m having a hard time believing that you run what you stated (a pic will make me stop from saying anything else).

I’ve seen your previous posts, you like to ask questions and then tell people to keep their opinions for themselves (that’s weird and rude). Also I answered your question saying you won’t notice a difference cause PvE wise everything dies fast.

Finally, I don’t like to put anything in other men’s faces.

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Posted by: Guardian of Angels.9867

Guardian of Angels.9867

I forgot to put on my zerker trinkets, but you can see that I’ve got them

No, I ask for opinions and then merely state what I think of them, that’s called freedom of speech. As you had to freedom to start about zerker where I had a mere questions about some power <3

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Posted by: Fashion Mage.3712

Fashion Mage.3712

It’s unlikely that you’ll notice 84 power missing. Shouldn’t make much of a difference in that regard.

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Posted by: Torqiseknite.1380

Torqiseknite.1380

As the poster above me said, the power difference probably won’t be too noticeable. Also, since you have the boon duration bonuses from traveler runes, you’ll be able to consistently maintain three might stacks with the greatsword auto-attack as opposed to vacillating between two and three stacks with the crests (just tested it). The other stat differences seem negligible.