[Builds] Havoc Squadron ( s.t.c. )
“stacking conditions” is only nice if you’re running with a condition group where extra condition coverages is sought for. Even then, this is no where close to a condition stacking build.
-Don’t use the same weapons. They stack cooldowns, reducing your overall performance.
-Go all in Valor, all in Honor, or both. Going half and half doesn’t benefit you in any way with the setup you currently have.
-You don’t offer burns on block, aegis heals, or shouts cleansing, making your shouts a wasteful utility.
-You have 1 skill, on a high cd, that cleanse 3 conditions. This would be fine for a heavy burst class but not for a sustain cele build. A heavy condi thief (or any condi class) would demolish you.
To summarize, your toughness, vita, and mediocre damage does not outweigh your lack of condi cleanses, sustains, and team support.
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“stacking conditions” is only nice if you’re running with a condition group where extra condition coverages is sought for. Even then, this is no where close to a condition stacking build.
-Don’t use the same weapons. They stack cooldowns, reducing your overall performance.
-Go all in Valor, all in Honor, or both. Going half and half doesn’t benefit you in any way with the setup you currently have.
-You don’t offer burns on block, aegis heals, or shouts cleansing, making your shouts a wasteful utility.
-You have 1 skill, on a high cd, that cleanse 3 conditions. This would be fine for a heavy burst class but not for a sustain cele build. A heavy condi thief (or any condi class) would demolish you.To summarize, your toughness, vita, and mediocre damage does not outweigh your lack of condi cleanses, sustains, and team support.
thank you for your opinion, I’m still relatively new to building my character, as I often give up halfway through the other games
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVMQJARWlsApVo97wUI8DNRCRlV+h9HECpw1DQAMmA-w
I have changed the build to be intended for more team support, for front to mid-range of the havoc team, changing sword+focus to staff, and dropped Purging Flames which cleanses 3 conditions, to shouts that convert condition to boons + Save Yourselves
I’d like to have a build that is able to deal steady stream of damage instead of burst, tho, condition stacking seems hard to achieve in Guardian
(edited by Hawgnes.2917)
Your new build isnt terrible but it’s lacking. Incoming wall of text. warned
you said: “It’s built with the intention to be slightly tough and slightly hard-hitting while stacking conditions ( burn, blind, vulnerability ) and might when a crit is dealt”
Your build atm has;
- 1 blind
- Might on Block (shelter/aegis are only blocks)
- Grant Aegis on block (This doesnt apply to yourself)
- Burn on block (yea burning does decent dmg and no internal CD)
- Vulnerability from sigil of frailty
Tbh the build you linked doesn’t work great for blinds spam (1 source), Vun spam (1 source) or Block benefits (only 1 source of shelter). If you want to run block benefits then you should really have focus in a offhand for 3 extra blocks. If not then perhaps drop a few block traits to fill other parts of the build that are weaker. For instance…burn on block could be swapped for 7% extra crit chance with retributive armor or Purity to help with your lack of condi clear.
Condi clear is something you lack and your gonna feel it with Save Yourselves on your bar. PoV alone isnt enough and you’ll find yourself “wasting” shouts to get ride of a part of a condi bomb. I’d consider dropping Communal Defense (which tbh i think is trash but maybe i’m missing the point) for Absolute resolution Which then gives you 3 condi clears + extra passive regen and it can be refreshed with Renewed Focus for another 3 condi clears.
Also, I find Retreat a bad skill for WvW Havoc (which i assume is what your doing when you say Havoc). My reasoning behind this is Aegis blocks one attack of way to freaking many attacks coming your way. It’s great in dungeons when a big telegraphed attack is coming but in WvW alot of attacks come in small burst, for example Whirling wrath. The Swiftness is nice but you got staff so just use the symbol. I’d swap it for HtL. HtL offers group -33% dmg, a regen heal and its on lower CD for more condi removal.
Runes of fire aren’t great. My recommendation would be runes of trooper for more condi removal because your running 3 shouts. You lose power but take power food to compensate for it. Also i prefer stacking bloodlust sigil over Sigil of force because guardians tag everything with staff. You get 25 stacks fast and your hard to kill.
Lastly, if your running in a organised guild group with comm’s then perhaps drop GS for Hammer simply for the zealot’s embrace Immob when you start to enter a fight to setup a bomb target, Ring of warding for Area denial/stab burning, Banish for Anti stomp (saving friends) and a 4 second blast finisher for fields like water or fire.
your build with my changes:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVMQJASWlsApVo97wWI8DNRCBlZR+P2fIEp4yLEAA-TFCEABQ8AAaR9HBVCqlyvQ0Fk0+DAcEAe4SAQGA9tA-w
Other things I changed and didn’t mention are:
-swapped unscathed for vengeful because your fairly tanky and retal can do good dmg. also you don’t get aegis alot and when you got it you will lose it quick.
- Sigil of Hydromancy on hammer for AoE Chill when your in a group + it will do almost 600 AoE dmg if your got full bloodlust stacks and it can crit.
- Sigil of energy on both weapons because dodging is nice and when you dodge you heal for almost 700 hp for you and other’s. Test it out though because you have vigor on crit as a minor trait so you may only want one of these.
The build I currently run in Havoc incase you want to know:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQJASWl8ApVo1CxfH8DNRCRldR8fBI2fQIkCXFAA-TFTDwAOeAAHVC5TZCM1fiq0IgZqCmQYu/AgjAgClgSuEAp0FQKAv2CA-w
It’s more about keeping everyone up rather than raw dps but it still does decent dmg. No crits though which is a shame but my friends do all the criting while I keep them alive. I will say it’s still a work in progess and I’m not sure if I want to try for more crit chance over healing yet.
My guardian experience comes from playing guardian as a main in WvW since launch but it’s all just my opinion.