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Posted by: Noctis.4753

Noctis.4753

Hi, I am playing a burst thief now and I suck very badly in 1 v 1 situations. (Due to low defence, always getting 1 or 2 shotted by a warrior)

I found a burst guardian video on youtube which made me wonder if a burst guardian would be easier to play than a burst thief in Spvp.

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By the way, I have ping ranging from 250~300 ms. Maybe the lag is causing me to
suck XD.

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

It’s harder to play then thief. Guards burst damage is easily telegraphed and avoided compared to other classes. If you’re missing most of your burst chances are you going to lose. You also have to rely a lot on blinds and dodges, compared to thieves with stealth mechanics.

However I’m not trying to scare you off. It’s very fun and rewarding to play. I recommend you give it a shot. You can always go into pvp and see if you like it.

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Posted by: Jax.5261

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http://tinyurl.com/p9jab6g

Try this.
You counter all other roaming builds, so dealing with the enemy roamer is easy. The telegraph is on your Focus 5, everything else you don’t actually have to commit with Judge’s if they dodge and it goes on a short recharge. Your burst is 18k+ in less than a second if it crits AND it’s AoE.
Against heavy armour targets you’ll generally hit 12-14k, the only negative is if you don’t crit + weakness + protection you’ll hit very low.
You rely on dodges, blocks and blinds.

Don’t run sword, if they’re half decent they’ll just dodge. Prot strike is also an illusion, it’s an instant hit with judges. If they dodge don’t use judges, if they don’t use it and it will land THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR LANDING YOUR BURST.

This is viable in tpvp but you need one of two things, guard in mid with 1-2 immobs and generally something with a knockup. So if your team comp doesn’t have that there isn’t too much to playing this over a thief (unless you want to deal with a backpoint mes easily).

Hope I made sense I’m tired =(

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Posted by: Jax.5261

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I also decided I’d quickly go into a game and get the combat log, met a guy in like 20 seconds and one shot him, was a s/d thief and I didn’t even get to use Zealot’s Fire or Shield of Wrath (missing out on a potential 12k on a low armour target) and it landed in less than 1 second.

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Posted by: derry.2789

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I also decided I’d quickly go into a game and get the combat log, met a guy in like 20 seconds and one shot him, was a s/d thief and I didn’t even get to use Zealot’s Fire or Shield of Wrath (missing out on a potential 12k on a low armour target) and it landed in less than 1 second.

I might be missing something here, but how did you hit with faithful strike without going through the rest of the mace chain first?, since you had just swapped weapons.

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Posted by: brannigan.9831

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You will die a lot as burst guaridan as well. If you don’t like dieing a lot don’t play burst. Also, guardian burst is very unforgiving. I just don’t see it myself. In a world with equal skill level players I am just not in love with DPS guards in spvp. Sure you can pew pew bads all day but most good players will be able to avoid your burst rotations or enough of it. It doesn’t matter if you can burst for 20,000k if it can be avoided fairly easily most of the time.

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Posted by: Crapgame.6519

Crapgame.6519

You will die a lot as burst guaridan as well. If you don’t like dieing a lot don’t play burst. Also, guardian burst is very unforgiving. I just don’t see it myself. In a world with equal skill level players I am just not in love with DPS guards in spvp. Sure you can pew pew bads all day but most good players will be able to avoid your burst rotations or enough of it. It doesn’t matter if you can burst for 20,000k if it can be avoided fairly easily most of the time.

I have to agree here and it doesn’t matter what format of PvP you are playing in. You can burst. However, 9 out of 10 times you will get smoked. There just are not enough escape options when they dodge your burst rotation.

To put it simply. You don’t put them down, you will go down.

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Posted by: Crapgame.6519

Crapgame.6519

I also decided I’d quickly go into a game and get the combat log, met a guy in like 20 seconds and one shot him, was a s/d thief and I didn’t even get to use Zealot’s Fire or Shield of Wrath (missing out on a potential 12k on a low armour target) and it landed in less than 1 second.

Come on….do you expect us to take that fight seriously? Really?

You fought a freaking plant! Petals!!!!!

Just kidding. Excuse my poor taste of humor this morning. I sure hope that player was a Sylvari!

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Posted by: Charak.9761

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its alot harder for the guard, you can burst 1 but you’re out of CDs for the other, though it can happen

whereas the thief can just reset when he sees fit.