Guild Wars 2

I found this build and it seems pretty amazing:
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQJARSlYgqC3EyvDfIFRuAbBYPwYG741DHSRGC-jUCBoeAYMQUEBK5rIasVWFRjVNDQVbR1KbYG0FRrWKAWVGB-w

Some questions:
1) Switch divinity runes for the soldier runes?
2) Still keep celestial trinket over cleric?
3) Should I run a zerker ascended claymore or celestial?

THANKS FOR ANSWERING

Amazing for …PVP? PVE?

Personally, I don’t recommend Celestial for PVE anything. Brutality has experimented with Celestial for WvW. I don’t believe he recommends it for that either. I find it’s better suited for:

1) Classes that don’t get heavy armor
2) Classes that can make decent builds with Crits AND Condition damage
3) Classes that are significantly deficient in intrinsic defensive capability

Guardian is none of those

I say try out out I mean it might work. Remember though what doesn’t work for some might actually work for you. So be afraid to try a new thing, I was thinking about making a build with celestial gear myself after looking up how the stats would be and how much health I would have and what traits id have it seems pretty good to me. Be also its mainly skill > gear when you play with this class from what I’ve noticed. I’ve seen some cool builds from people that seem strange but work for them. Good luck

Remember we have ascended armour coming on 10th, maybe wait and see what the ascended celestial stats are

it’s a decent build. i don’t think celestial is bad for Guardians, but if you’re willing to put in the extra time and work to mix and match sets, you can definitely come up with something better. though if you’re going the standard x/x/30/30/x builds, you can build up impressive stats. relatively high healing, while still having decent crit chance and crit damage. however, your low power is the only issue. in WvW, i would definitely stack via bloodlust sigil as well as aim to get Guard Leech for a total of 350 increased power. which still puts you below 2k power.

again, it’s not bad. it’s flexible to a certain extent. it can be good. i’ve tried a full set as well in WvW and while i did okay, it was nothing special. i definitely feel like i perform better in my mixed sets.

but yes, DEFINITELY wait for ascended armor to come out and go from there.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQJARWlUgqCnFSKEfIFRuAbBYPwYG741DKmQGC-jEyAo/AhtSGxIQEEkkfR0YraFRjVVTEVrtxkCwclRA-w

this is what i have been running (for zerging in wvw) and i can only say it rocks^^ you have really good survivability 19k life (21,5k life with stacks), nearly 3,2k armor (through trait number 4 in valor), nearly 2k power with stacks and a good critdmg/critchance. 716 healing is also nice^^

I feel celestial isn’t really suited to guardian to be honest. If you think about it, more armor isn’t the way to go because of our small health pools, the loss in power is also pretty high. The only stats which will make much difference are Power precision crit dmg and vitality, (healing power if you trait for heals of dodgerolls/symbol healing idk)
I would just stick to zerker but if you have trouble surviving swap in some valk gear (with your build though knights would probally be better due to low crit chance)

I have played extensively with them and they work but the thing is if you mix geartypes (play around with buildcraft) you will find that you can get better *effective stats" in health and damage by mixing gear types.

The only pieces that i havent been able to get better stats by mixing is:
Chest
Legs
Head
Weapon
Divinity runes (But you loose the secondary effect from runes like condiremoval from soldiers or longer lasting boons)

The rest of celestials (trinkets in particular) can be replaced by other pieces. Tbh i think Anet totally missed the goal budgetwise on these babies. They cant specialise and they are not the best compromise either.

You are also forced to build so you can benefit from all stats they have, if not they turn even worse. 30 points in honor is mandatory imo. After that you need to choose from 30 points in valor (0/5/30/30/5 or 0/0/30/30/10) or 30 points in virtues (10/0/0/30/30 or 0/0/10/30/30).
Imo x/x/x30/30 is the build best suited for celestial gameplay and with boon duration runes. If you combine hammer/staff and purging flames/hallowed ground and ofc 2h mastery/master of consecrations you can give your team 25 stacks on your own. Add in might on swap or energy and “might on dodge food” and its really itneresting but i it requires that you know the game.

What are they good at then if you stack them?

They are great if you can stack might or any other secondary source of power like wvw buffs. Since they are high on crit and best in game on crit damage they benefit greatly from mightstacking and heavy burst builds is doable. Check what weapon which scales best and you will find that focus and hammer are good choices for might stacking and ofc consecrations for fire fields. Staff is also an option.

Might stacking without staff is very demanding and requires a very good player and not something i would recommend for a newcomer but when you get it to work its just awesome.

So in short:
Get 3-4 pieces and mix the rest

Or

Stack all celestials and go for might stacking.

They are also a good choice if you don’t know how you want to play the guardians since they offer a bit of everything.

EDIT:
Use a mix of clerics, cavalier, valkyrie and pre/tough/pow trinkets instead, depending on what you replace hands, feet and shoulders with.

Crit damage is a very poor stat if there is no underlying power and you will in fact gain dps by mixing gear while maintaining effective healthpool (mitigation and absolute healthpool). The only time crit damage is favorable is in max dps builds and when you want to max you potential burst. Its the last stat, besides condition damage, you need to stack in order to get dps.

Celestials in the first place is about sustain and as such its sustained damage you should look for..
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/118482/3.jpg
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/118486/7.jpg

The first pics show full celestials and the second shows a mixed build with only celestial head/chest/legs.
Both with wvw buffs, blood lust, stacks from kills and food.
Survivability is the same since its about sustain (dodge roll) and regenerate health and not about healthpool but the second one blows the celestial out of the water when it comes to damage. You could swap 210 points precision to any other stat and the dps would still be higher but with the same healthpool and much more toughness. My point is MIX GEAR

You can find more gear setups with 0/0/30/30/10 here. all of them are decently optimized stat wise, except the full celestial which cant be optimized.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Guide-30-pts-in-valor-gameplay-Hammer/page/12#post3199084

Would you mind sharing me the build for the 2nd pic? The mix one

AgentChaos.4932:

Would you mind sharing me the build for the 2nd pic? The mix one

follow the link to the forum post and you find build, gear, buffs for that build.

This for pve, pvp, or wvw?

In wvw I run full celestial trinkets and weapons with pvt in primary armor slots and knights or zerker in secondary armor slots. I’ve found that the amount of crit damage and extra stats synergizes very well with traveler runes and my builds (0/15/30/20/5 and 10/0/30/25/5). It lets me tank well as well as provide enough offensive pressure to make people try and kill me while the real damage dealers do the real damage.

Brutaly.6257:

AgentChaos.4932:

Would you mind sharing me the build for the 2nd pic? The mix one

follow the link to the forum post and you find build, gear, buffs for that build.

Ah your pics had the old bloodlust buff which gave godly stats. Was wondering How every stats are so high

AgentChaos.4932:

Brutaly.6257:

AgentChaos.4932:

Would you mind sharing me the build for the 2nd pic? The mix one

follow the link to the forum post and you find build, gear, buffs for that build.

Ah your pics had the old bloodlust buff which gave godly stats. Was wondering How every stats are so high

Old bloodlust? I have the exact same stats right now in wvw.