Communal Defenses Wolf Pack :P

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Posted by: Hurtappl.6405

Hurtappl.6405

I was thinking after looking at the skill communal defenses.. How awsome would a 4-5 man roaming party of guardians with this trait be really?

I came up with a build that I would like to try in pvp with my friends to see if it would be a force to wreckon with while roaming. Im not claiming the build is perfect but it is a good start.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAsdRlsApUo97wZI8DNx8QVVAgdRsER61vQL8oA-TJBFwACOEAE3foaZAAHBAA

For the pvp version everyone will have zerker amulet 2700 armor in combat and 20k hp! not to bad!

Idea behind the build is to abuse! yes abuse communal defenses!

Benefits of having multiple of these guardians..
-communal defenses- keep giving the party aegis to use bouncing from one player to another
-shattered aegis- for that repeating group damage
-defenders flame- group 1 sec burn
-rune of the guardian- group 1 sec burn and that extra toughness
-strength in numbers- for that extra toughness (obv only 1 guy needs)
-force of will- extra vit

perks to the build
nice stats
very fast moving pack! with retreat, gs, and sword

down sides
no stab— easy fix if you wanna replace save yourself- i like to use save yourself and then purging flames tho
no AH or med heal- I believe but am not 100% sure that with this group and the combination of communal defenses and pure of heart (800 heal on aegis removal) their will be enough healing going around to outshine either of those other grandmaster traits

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Posted by: Silv.9207

Silv.9207

If you’re a team fighting 5vs5 that build can work for… 5 seconds?
Communal defence have a cooldown of 20 seconds. At the first AoE everyone spam it at the same time, making it useless for 20 seconds.
If you fight 1vs1 that player die quickly, whitout condition removers (only purging flames, and not traited), expecially in spvp, where 70% of people play a condi build.
About the Rune, you use a berserker build whit a pure defensive/condi rune, that grant 1 sec of burning. Bur your burning deal 328 damage…

The only thing good whit this build is the use of Aegis to heal you. You can obtain 4 Aegis by yourself and 1 by your ally every 20 sec, 1 every 48 sec and 1 every 90 sec. You can heal yourself by 2.4k by yourself (because the first aegis don’t heal you: you’re full hp). But if you use all your aegis and your elite. You use 1 virtue (twice), a skill whit 48 sec of delay and the elite skill Only to heal yourself by 2.4k of hp. (if you’re not poisoned or if you can active your purging flame in time to remove poison before active Aegis). At the top, you can obtain 6.4k hp (more or less) if you’ve someone whit you.
If you use a Meditation you can heal yourself by 2100 HP with that build. With 3 skill you can heal by 6.3k (8.4 if you use Merciful Intervention), inflict burning and clean/convert in boon all your conditions. And you can heal yourself by 2.1k hp every 16 sec whit Smite Condition, inflicting damage and cleaning a condition.

The good of that build is that a team of guardians can fight a lot whitout taking damage and giving AoE damage but it’s a low damage (only 309 whit a semi-berserker build). But when you use all the skills that grant you Aegis… you’re a dead man.

And if you use it in dungeon or in wvsw there’s so many attacks, AoE and different situations that your build will make you crazy if you want to make it work.

Then, the last thing: Save Yourselves. Never use it whitout a Good Condition Remove skill. Expecially in spvp and in wvsw. Two reasons: 1) in sPvP that skill is nerfed and it’s boons last only for 5 seconds; 2) you put on yourself all the conditions of your allies, a thing that can make you obtain Poison, a Condition that will destroy all your build in 1 second.

I’ve not try that build and it can work well, you can obtain some glory in tspsp or wvsw or pve, but it’s not the best build you can do. And it’s not the best trait you can use.

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Posted by: Aza.2105

Aza.2105

Shattered aegis hits for around 2.2k if it crits.

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Posted by: Silv.9207

Silv.9207

Really it hit for 2.2k? O.o
From the damage indicated on the build calculator it had to do no more than 1100-1500 damage, more or less (if crit). The sword auto attack is 500 power, the aesig 300. Whit my guardian I don’t crit for more than 2.3k whit my auto attack.
(I frequently fight heavy armored class or bunker builds, but it will be the same for you).

If shatter aegis hit for 2k it can be really good, yes. But it’s not the best build you can do XD

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Posted by: Aza.2105

Aza.2105

Yea I’ve tested it a lot in heart of the mists, it can hit for 2.2k. But the numbers vary from target to target. Meaning, one shattered aegis may hit for 2.2k, another may not crit at all.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

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The thing about Shattered Aegis is that it’s a pretty small radius so if you really want to knock people out you’re going to have to stack tightly onto yourselves to get overlap and the enemy to really hurt them. I don’t think it’s worth it in small scale; though you may have one or two guys getting those aegis out for more blocks and Pure of Heart heals; don’t bother with shattered aegis. It’s just too easy to get hit and it comes out prematurely. That brings out the other problem with the build— the 20 second cooldown and difficulty of control over when you block.

In bigger fights though, with large clusters of players; shattered+ communal can cause a lot of damage if you do it together. If the 5 of you were to join up on a zerg and burst people down with it, it’s actually quite spectacular and you can blow up small crowds. (I’ve only done it on my own and the damage is nifty).

Be careful of retaliation though. Don’t do it when the enemy is stacking together, or you might just explode yourselves.

Edit: Oh you’re talking about pvp; this post was in a wvw context.

For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.

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