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Posted by: Tobeyeus.9376

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I read the Pyroclasm guide, and with the recent changes was interested in trying a Condition Guardian build, but was curious if it is more viable now.

This is the build I came up with:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAsdWlUgSCXFyMEf4ES2jV6AVQrHDEA5PXFoIA-jECB4iCiUFBikGMTtIasFWFRjVJjIqWpEzurIa1SBMp0I-w

If anyone has any constructive suggestions I would appreciate them.

Something I did want clarification on was whether Burn duration is needed. I was under the impression that with Sword and Virtue of Justice, I would want to proc the 1 second Burn as often as possible so that it could burn then dissipate then be reapplied instead of stacking it to then only have it removed. It would act as an additional attack instead of a long standing DoT. I also took as many Block skills as I could with the Guardian Runes to have the same effect, apply lots of short duration Burns to zerg of enemies.

I am just trying to find something new, that might revive my interest in my Guardian

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Posted by: foofad.5162

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Condition damage doesn’t scale well enough for Guardians to supplant Power. You’ve essentially kitten yourself with that kind if stat load out. A Warrior can pull off something like that and be tanky thanks to bleed, burning (Longbow) and in WvW, Perplexity runes. But not us.

You’re only going to need to worry about cleansing in WvW. In that case you only need to worry about it if your build only has a couple of long duration sources. If you have many sources, it doesn’t matter how long your burns last, you’re going to reapply it whether they like it or not. So in other words, it’s never really a tactical advantage to not have Burn duration. Your logic is sound though, it just doesn’t really work out in practice.

Burning Guardians aren’t in a place where they can give up Power entirely. It’s also inadvisable to put any points into Condition Damage at all. Duration, great (to a point). But not damage.

On a related note you will get creamed by conditions yourself. Untraited PF isn’t enough. Replace Vengeance with Master of Consecrations. Retaliation is power based so making that last longer isn’t going to do you any good.

Eilir Eirasdottir, Guardian, Tarnished Coast
Painbow.6059: Ignore what anyone else who doesn’t agree with me has said because its wrong.

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Posted by: Crapgame.6519

Crapgame.6519

I’ve tried it a few times and while fun, it just doesn’t seem to work well in WvW. It does catch people off guard though for a few seconds. I was using Carrion exotic armor with Balthazar / flame legion rune mix. Weapon carrion with a 10/20/10/0/30 build. Not sure but if I recall correctly I’ve used both pyroclasm’s build and the burning sticky above but for some reason that is my last gear set up and notes.

Fiery wrath, searing flames, radiant fire, defenders flame, vengeful, supreme justice, permeating wrath. My biggest issue is that I want to use a torch and everyone says you don’t need to. So, maybe that is why I am bad at it because I always ended up using sword/torch, scepter/sword/shield combo.

Main – Laaz Rocket – Guardian (Ehmry Bay)
Johnny Johnny – Ranger (Ehmry Bay)
Hárvey Wallbanger – Alt Warrior (Ehmry Bay)

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Posted by: Amins.3710

Amins.3710

@OP: Please stop.

We are Shaman Buff Bots. Just macro a /stick and re-roll warrior or engi, and then keybind SYG, SY, HTL, Antitoxin Spray and Renewed Focus, along w/ Empower & SoS to better support of your main.

The Pie is not in the Sky.

The Dev’s do not visit us.

We ARE balanced.

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Posted by: Crapgame.6519

Crapgame.6519

@OP: Please stop.

We are Shaman Buff Bots.

Did you ever play DaOC?

That is exactly what we did in Midgard. Level up a Shaman, port to RvR zone, find a tower, buff, park Then take your primary and do the real work

Rinse and repeat – lol.

Main – Laaz Rocket – Guardian (Ehmry Bay)
Johnny Johnny – Ranger (Ehmry Bay)
Hárvey Wallbanger – Alt Warrior (Ehmry Bay)

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Posted by: foofad.5162

foofad.5162

@OP: Please stop.

We are Shaman Buff Bots.

Did you ever play DaOC?

That is exactly what we did in Midgard. Level up a Shaman, port to RvR zone, find a tower, buff, park Then take your primary and do the real work

Rinse and repeat – lol.

And that’s why DAOC was dumb, despite the throngs of people viewing it with rose tinted goggles. >_>

Eilir Eirasdottir, Guardian, Tarnished Coast
Painbow.6059: Ignore what anyone else who doesn’t agree with me has said because its wrong.

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Posted by: Crapgame.6519

Crapgame.6519

@OP: Please stop.

We are Shaman Buff Bots.

Did you ever play DaOC?

That is exactly what we did in Midgard. Level up a Shaman, port to RvR zone, find a tower, buff, park Then take your primary and do the real work

Rinse and repeat – lol.

And that’s why DAOC was dumb, despite the throngs of people viewing it with rose tinted goggles. >_>

No game is perfect but at least that game had ranks that actually did, and meant something. Not to mention a portal that provided useful information. Oh, and the keep/tower guards actually provided warning it was attacked, or if you exp’d near your claimed keep/tower you gained more exp, etc.

But yeah, buff bots are a bit over the top and retail CC, boy. What a crazy mess that was but loads of fun with PAC healers and suppression spiritmasters. But I ramble. The game actually fel apart when they attempted to add PvE / Raid content(Atlantis exp pack). Seems many a game that tries to do PvE and PvP end up failing…go figure.

Main – Laaz Rocket – Guardian (Ehmry Bay)
Johnny Johnny – Ranger (Ehmry Bay)
Hárvey Wallbanger – Alt Warrior (Ehmry Bay)

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Posted by: foofad.5162

foofad.5162

The only thing I miss from Mythic was that they had the courage to use player collision in PvP. If we had that here, WvW would be a very different place.

Eilir Eirasdottir, Guardian, Tarnished Coast
Painbow.6059: Ignore what anyone else who doesn’t agree with me has said because its wrong.

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Posted by: Crapgame.6519

Crapgame.6519

They actually did more than that good. I mean conceptually Darkness Falls was a blast but they did struggle with race populations and flavor of the month classes. Oh, don’t get me started on hybrids (aka my Thane).

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Johnny Johnny – Ranger (Ehmry Bay)
Hárvey Wallbanger – Alt Warrior (Ehmry Bay)

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Posted by: Crapgame.6519

Crapgame.6519

Oh, what about all stealth classes climbing walls

Main – Laaz Rocket – Guardian (Ehmry Bay)
Johnny Johnny – Ranger (Ehmry Bay)
Hárvey Wallbanger – Alt Warrior (Ehmry Bay)